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[Agent 88]

Can't believe I haven't seen this posted already, but in the latest Diana Burnwood ICA File video at the 0:32 mark, the narrator says 47 "maintains a 97% success rate." So what 3% of missions has 47 failed? The 47 I know would either complete his contract or die trying. And yes, I'm disregarding the movie where he has second thoughts about Nika.

Any thoughts or speculation on this?

[Black glasses]

Some have said it was actually Diana's success rate, and it was her file after all. But 47 did fail a bit in Paris, just after the mission Curtains Down in Blood Money: he gets shot by detective Fournier. Then he stumbles back to his hotel room, where some kind of a doctor takes care of his wounds, and after recovering fully, 47 goes and kills Fournier, and after that leaves Paris. These events were played in Contracts.

Other than that, I can't think of anything.

[Choronzon]

You could also consider, besides the botched Paris hit, that Diana's success rate was further taken down by the Silent Assassin mission "St. Petersburg Stakeout" wherein there are three-four similar looking generals present at the meeting, one of them being the actual target. If you remember Diana's reaction, it was something like: "That's strange, 47 - and unexpected". That could be argued as that she didn't prepare the hit well enough in advance.

Edited by Choronzon, 23 February 2012 - 03:11 AM.

[DeadlyShadow47]

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It's Diana's success rate. 47 doesn't fail unless he intends to, right?

[sgg847]

Clarifying this bundle of fantasies like elucidating "biography of 47". They both full of contradictions with the games. The phrase "sole handler ... of 47" raises question about role of Clera in H2SA.
Nothing interesting.

Edited by sgg847, 23 February 2012 - 03:28 AM.

[Watson]

Clera was not 47's "handler", it's likely she was simply an assistant to Diana at the Agency or worked as a fill-in during assignments when the handler was temporarily unavailable.

[Dev J Chand]

Uhh........ useless topic. It was made clear by Nick@IO himself that the 97% success rate was for Diana and not 47.
And that's a good approximation, because she didn't give proper information for the Opera assassination (he was detected by another agent) and also, she didn't have clear information on the St Petersburg mission about the first general, as stated above.
Also, that's not counting a generator in the Japanese castle.
This needs to be locked..

[Expert]

It seem that IO triggered insomnia among some fans with this story to 97% success rate...

[nutcool211]

Didn't Diana essentially fail at the end of blood money? hence, why she had to poison 47, as a last minute strategy to save him and in turn destroy The Franchise?

[Choronzon]

Didn't Diana essentially fail at the end of blood money? hence, why she had to poison 47, as a last minute strategy to save him and in turn destroy The Franchise?

Not exactly.

By "offering" 47 up to the Franchise in a supposedly "death" state (the "poisoning" by syringe), she regained the strategic upper hand in an otherwise quite desperate looking situation. This allowed her to win the trust and approval of The Franchise headsman Leland-Cayne and enough for his security detail to let their guard down, thus enabling her solitary access to 47 to carry out her plan. Burnwood very well knew and probably foresaw/premeditated that agent 47, her client within ICA and long-time ally, was the only one able to diffuse said life-threatening situation and come out alive, if only by sheer firepower and his uncanny talent for survival.

Edited by Choronzon, 23 February 2012 - 11:42 AM.

[Expert]

if only by sheer firepower and his uncanny talent for survival.

Why are you always so excited when you write about 47?

[Sir Joe]

It seem that IO triggered insomnia among some fans with this story to 97% success rate...

LOL u figured them out

[Kirill 47]

Why are you always so excited when you write about 47?

cuz 47 is the second coming!

[Best for Hire]

Contracts explains why. This isn't surprising.

[JaRDoS]

As well as the possibility of early missions where 47 was still getting used to his job there's also the possibility that the 3% error is simply incidents where his mission become impossible due to circumstances beyond his control:

* His target died before he could reach them (due to another assassin, accident, etc)
* The mission was cancelled due to a client changing their mind
* Information provided by ICA was wrong and target was not present

None of these would be missions we'd want to play, so they wouldn't be in the game or reflect on 47s reputation.

[space_monkey]

well if that only failed mission gives 47 a 97% succes rate, than this means that a single mission is worth 3%.
So, no we can say Agent 47 has accomplished about 33 assignments.
Now though I think he should have had more, I think there were even more in the previous 4 games. So, that gives us an idea that 47 failed more than one contract

[Cold Shadow]

Nick stated that the 97% success rate is for Diana. 47 is still a 100%.

[Johnny Drama]

As well as the possibility of early missions where 47 was still getting used to his job there's also the possibility that the 3% error is simply incidents where his mission become impossible due to circumstances beyond his control:

* His target died before he could reach them (due to another assassin, accident, etc)
* The mission was cancelled due to a client changing their mind
* Information provided by ICA was wrong and target was not present

None of these would be missions we'd want to play, so they wouldn't be in the game or reflect on 47s reputation.

I don't think that 47 have had any other hits that we don't know of. All the targets from the past games is probably all of his kills.

[Watson]

or the 3% failure is just players stuffing up missions.

I don't think that 47 have had any other hits that we don't know of. All the targets from the past games is probably all of his kills.

Contracts disproved the assertion that all of 47's missions were ones we had played previously.

Edited by Watson, 24 February 2012 - 05:27 AM.

[Johnny Drama]

Contracts disproved the assertion that all of 47's missions were ones we had played previously.

Where in Contracts do they mention other kills we don't know of?