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[Best for Hire]

47 has little (if any) emotions at all. So the things he describes don't fit.

This says enough to me: 'As long as I had the means to carry on each day and dress the way I liked, I was happy.'

He has little emotion, but still has them. Silent Assassin confirms that 47 isn't some mindless robot. He even believes in God in that game.

Edited by Best for Hire, 16 June 2012 - 05:33 PM.

[hityutz]

the evidence you have for him not being a mindless robot is a little tenuous to be honest.

[Best for Hire]

the evidence you have for him not being a mindless robot is a little tenuous to be honest.

How so? It's hard to know whether or not 47 is a mindless character or not since he is hugely under developed. Hopefully, Absolution can show us more on 47's personality and thoughts

[MrPistolLaw]

My only interest in 47's relationships are the ones between him and his arsenal of weapons.

[Stealth Clobber]

'I really didn’t care about the money. As long as I had the means to carry on each day and dress the way I liked, I was happy.'

Are one of the weirdest things, imo.

It's not only weird, it's pretty contradicting too.

But it was a job. And it was money. Not as much as I made with the Agency, but it was enough. (aka he cares about money)

I really didn’t care about the money. (WHAT?)

As long as I had the means to carry on each day and dress the way I liked, I was happy. (Which requires money, which he obviously cares about).

[thedeadman_47]

I agree. This text is not 47'y enough. At all. He's expressed like some 16 year old, insecure and half-depressed high-school freshman. I don't know who the author is, but I'm not impressed with this, no matter what kind of expert he/she is on the hitman franchise.

I'm sorry, but you can't judge a whole book/novel based on just one excrep and that excrep being in beginning of the novel means that things will be akward until the real story begins and the chrachters are fully shown and explained

[Silentguy]

I'm sorry, but you can't judge a whole book/novel based on just one excrep and that excrep being in beginning of the novel means that things will be akward until the real story begins and the chrachters are fully shown and explained

Well, an excrep is released to increase the interest and make costumers want to buy it. And the main part of buyers of this novel aught to be hitman fans right? So the best idea would be to release an excrep that appealed to the fans at a such manner, that they'd buy it and be happy with the product. I'm confused If it was the intention to appeal to Hitman fans with this text. This is not the 47 we've known through all the games. Yes, I am aware of that he is far more emotional now and that we get highly in touch with his emotions and thoughts. But this is not 47 at all. It's way too superficial, not the calm and collected killer we're used to.

Edited by Silentguy, 17 June 2012 - 02:59 AM.

[Johnny Drama]

Well, an excrep is released to increase the interest and make costumers want to buy it. And the main part of buyers of this novel aught to be hitman fans right? So the best idea would be to release an excrep that appealed to the fans at a such manner, that they'd buy it and be happy with the product. I'm confused If it was the intention to appeal to Hitman fans with this text. This is not the 47 we've known through all the games. Yes, I am aware of that he is far more emotional now and that we get highly in touch with his emotions and thoughts. But this is not 47 at all. It's way too superficial, not the calm and collected killer we're used to.

True. I hate this direction.

[refriednoodle_47]

When does the book release?

I have upcoming flights/bus routes/layovers equating to around 30 hours of travel time... it would be nice to have some extra reading material.

[DeadlyShadow47]

When does the book release?

I have upcoming flights/bus routes/layovers equating to around 30 hours of travel time... it would be nice to have some extra reading material.

This summer, but dunno when exactly.

[refriednoodle_47]

^ Probably won't be here in time, then. Thanks for the info.

EDIT: Just checked out Amazon, and the site has it listed for Oct. 30.

Edited by refriednoodle_47, 17 June 2012 - 06:08 AM.

[thedeadman_47]

Well, an excrep is released to increase the interest and make costumers want to buy it. And the main part of buyers of this novel aught to be hitman fans right? So the best idea would be to release an excrep that appealed to the fans at a such manner, that they'd buy it and be happy with the product. I'm confused If it was the intention to appeal to Hitman fans with this text. This is not the 47 we've known through all the games. Yes, I am aware of that he is far more emotional now and that we get highly in touch with his emotions and thoughts. But this is not 47 at all. It's way too superficial, not the calm and collected killer we're used to.

I agree with you on that, but hey it's IOI, almost all of their advertisments are done wrong and don't appeal to fans

[Silentguy]

I agree with you on that, but hey it's IOI, almost all of their advertisments are done wrong and don't appeal to fans

How so?

[thedeadman_47]

For example, almost all trailers for any Hitman game show great deal of action, leaving fans distracted and not sure about what to make of the game the last being Attack Of The Siants trailer, plus sometimes they show demos that make the game appear linear like the Blood Money demo or the RFYL demo (I know RFYL is expanded but I'm talking about what was shown), and I know that's not the case of all the ad materials IO does that why I said "almost" because the majority of the ads often leave fans wondering and suspecting that this is not the Hitman game we all know and love and eventually it turns out to be that it is better than previous games that we loved (Contracts excluded for me, found Silent Assassin to be much better)

[Wolf89]

This is literally the opposite of what is being described in this so called 'book'.

True. 47 there don't say anything, but he's at his 100%. In the book he's taking too much painkillers for his injuries and is possibly afecting his mind, in other words he's tripping. I hope that's the case. We'll have to see him under better conditions to judge. But it does sound strange, that's true.

BTW this trailer is just amazing. They should definately do something like that for Absolution. It does not have stealth but we can connect the things, like he being in the car with the driver's clothes and everything. So far they only showed shootouts but well, at least we seen gameplay with old style hits.

the evidence you have for him not being a mindless robot is a little tenuous to be honest.

In Hitman's past it is clearly shown how he has some emotions, like caring some some individuals, aknowleding his mistakes and trying to change and was seen as a clone that has it's own mind, instead of being a mindless killer. He even had a pet.

[scourged]

For example, almost all trailers for any Hitman game show great deal of action, leaving fans distracted and not sure about what to make of the game the last being Attack Of The Siants trailer, plus sometimes they show demos that make the game appear linear like the Blood Money demo or the RFYL demo (I know RFYL is expanded but I'm talking about what was shown), and I know that's not the case of all the ad materials IO does that why I said "almost" because the majority of the ads often leave fans wondering and suspecting that this is not the Hitman game we all know and love and eventually it turns out to be that it is better than previous games that we loved (Contracts excluded for me, found Silent Assassin to be much better)

There's a difference in how you can PLAY the game and how the character changes from a careless professional to a whiney/caring, happy dude.....

Edited by scourged, 17 June 2012 - 12:36 PM.

[hitmanfan11]

There's a difference in how you can PLAY the game and how the character changes from a careless professional to a whiney/carrying, happy dude.....

Exactly, if 47 was exactly as he is in the games then there would be very little to write about in terms of his character.

[thedeadman_47]

There's a difference in how you can PLAY the game and how the character changes from a careless professional to a whiney/carrying, happy dude.....

What I meant to say that the book might turn out quite different from what we just read, and since 47 is back with the Agency then my guess is that the book will show you haow 47 got to that low point and then how he got past it and went back to the Agency and bein the top of his game and how he got back to being that professional stone cold killer that we know, so damn professional that he even killed Diana

Edited by thedeadman_47, 17 June 2012 - 12:30 PM.

[scourged]

What I meant to say that the book might turn out quite different from what we just read, and since 47 is back with the Agency then my guess is that the book will show you haow 47 got to that low point and then how he got past it and went back to the Agency and bein the top of his game and how he got back to being that professional stone cold killer that we know, so damn professional that he even killed Diana

A person who isn't emotionally developed doesn't act this way, ever.

oh and: "I knew I wasn’t operating at 100 percent. I wasn’t at the top of my game. Ever since the accident. Ever since Diana "

[Creaky]

Also, we have to bear in mind two points:

We've never really had any clue how 47 has felt. Just his external reactions, mostly. He's very professional, and we know capable of emotion based on his turn at the start of Hitman 2, and his pets over the years. Remember when Diana tells him Vittorio is dead? He seems to just accept it, and get on with his life. We have no idea what was going on in his head. He could have been angry, upset or worse - but his training forces him to move on, deal with it, and not betray any hint of emotion. Clearly Diana's percieved 'betrayal' at the end of Blood Money has shaken him up something proper. Perhaps to those he meets he's still the calm, emotionless engine of death he always was, but since he's narrating in first person this time, we get deep inside his own mind - learn about his feelings, his vices, his troubles. It's essential to make him into a character who can carry a first person narrative (suspect writing quality aside), otherwise it'd just be a list of actions.

Secondly, it seems with Absolution IO are intent on humanising the character in the game too. Regardless of whether I think this is a good decision, it would certainly be in keeping with Absolution for the tie in material to take this route. Perhaps it'll bridge the gap that I suspect is coming between the old 47 and the modern 47 (what with this 'new creative direction').

I'm not confident that the new, more human, direction is the right one for the character, personally. For me, the characters and stories in Hitman are the targets and settings - 47 is an intruder in someone elses world (even though the games don't always support that feeling, taken in broad observation). But, since this is their experiment, I'm happy to roll with it. If, with a full novel and a videogame supporting it, it turns out to succeed - fine. If it doesn't, then there's major cause for concern. But I can't tell until I've read the book and played the game.