I said to provide the studies so we can see them, then did the rest. The only person I see citing the prestige of the university’s is the people who don’t want the study’s challenged or actually analysed.
The studies in this case, are extremely unreliable and do not in any way shape or form prove the initial claim made. So nobody is going to be convinced by them.
Perhaps a better point to focus on is that the people who want the studies to be held up as proof that they are right should have considered the alternatives. They should have considered the study didn’t review a large sample size, they should have considered that the study didn’t provide complete data, they should have considered the study used a an unreliable instrument, etc.
Before you demand others “at least consider” your point of view you should take the time to consider it yourself and then consider people’s criticisms of it.
This literally did not happen - what happened was someone made an extraordinary claim then provided a study that failed to prove it. The goal post, as quoted in my post, was always the same. Perhaps you should have taken the time to consider that before posting.
Also yes, you can pick apart any study ever done - that’s kind of the point of publishing them. Studies do not exist so that people on the Internet can announce their biases are fact now, they exist so they can be analysed, built up upon and be helpful to science, society and the useful arts.
I have given the opposing side far more consideration than they have mine, given I’ve cited numerous additional texts they can review and now all you are doing is saying that it’s not fair that linking to a random study doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with you without question. You can actually learn things from reading my posts, you aren’t going to learn anything from people posting that if they aren’t considered right all the time it’s not fair.
If you don’t want to participate in the discussion, don’t post. If you don’t like people discussing the topic, don’t click on the thread. The forum does not exist to be a podium for people to shout their biases and then demand that they be accepted as fact.