General News Thread 2.0


#1273

Your comparison doesn’t really make any sense. It’s not anyone’s else house. It’s her flag. She can do whatever she wants with it.


#1274

With all due respect, I think it makes perfect sense. Sure, it’s not their house, just like it ain’t anyone else’s flag but her own. She bought it I assume, but still…

It’s not a matter of who’s house, or who’s flag, freedom of speech / expression, etc. it’s a matter of having respect and common sense.

Just because something isn’t illegal, doesn’t make it right. Just saying…

Her taking a “piss” on the flag just shows what kind of person she is. Although like I said before, and I still stand by it, (even though she did something very stupid imo) people threatening to murder her and harm her family because of that “stupid” choice is a little much for what she did.

I mean, I see why some may be angry with what she did, but making murder threats is going too far.


#1275

Also, what the hell does thanksgiving have to do with Jesus?


#1276

He just meant saying grace in general, I think. It’s not necessarily a christian holiday, but it celebrates a meal between christian pilgrims and native americans.


#1277

I see. The native Americans help the Pilgrims survive winter and they thank God. Sounds about right :joy:


#1278

Always a good time to share this.


#1279

Ah yes, always entertaining to watch someone make fun of people who gave their lives. Classy Bill.


#1280

He’s making fun of hysterical reactions to flag burning - Not people who “give their lives” (Though there’s a whole lot to say about that subject too).


#1281

I see both happening simultaneously. But that’s just me.

Edit: But I’ll concede that I’m probably a bit more sensitive to it than many due to both family and friendship connections to the military. And not all of them came home the same as they left.


#1282

Many of my family and friends are/were too. Uncle was an Officer, paternal Grandfather was in the Navy and became a POW for 5 years during WW2, and maternal Grandfather was in the Royal Air Force. A friend of mine is a Paratrooper and another friend is US General Infantry.

In many cases they aren’t looked after when they return. The way our respective Governments treat veterans leaves a lot to be desired.


#1283

I have to agree with @AGENT4T7, peeing or do other nasty stuff to a flag is disrespectful, for me if you pee on a flag, you not only pee on the goverment but all the citizens in that country, if you want to make a statement about a country politics or whatnot, peeing or do other nasty stuff to the flag is not the right way.


#1284

The issue of flag desecration in the USA is settled. It’s constitutionally
protected under the first amendment. It may be a shock tactic designed to
tug on people’s emotions, but I have no idea why it even winds people up so
much. Maybe its because I have zero nationalist tendencies in my body,
but the idea of someone being offended by a piece of cloth being defaced is
just baffling. Oversensitivity at its finest.

It’s a little more extreme than refusing to stand during the pledge of
allegiance or refusing to sing the national anthem, but the purpose is the
same. Easy way to make a statement with little effort.


#1285

First, a flag is more than just a cloth, second, i love my country, native/minority citizens and the nature therefore the flag is almost sacred to me and that’s where my nationalism ends, i don’t understand why someone would do something like that if they just have a problem with the goverment, the government is not everything in a country. I don’t like everything the government is doing here in Norway, but i would never do something against the norwegian flag, the norwegian flag represents all citizens and the country as a country, not just the government.
I can understand it with nazi flags etc, but i don’t understand doing things like that against flags for any countries.


#1286

Exactly. It’s not about getting uptight over “a piece of cloth” it’s about getting uptight when people disrespect what that piece of cloth represents. As I said before, just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t make it right. Show respect people. Have some class.

So if someone takes a piss on a “BLM Flag” would that mean they aren’t racist? Because you know… they would have the “freedom” to do it.


#1287

Flags don’t represent people, though - They represent countries, and in
fact they represent the Government and the Establishment far more than
they represent you or me as individuals. Burning a flag is absolutely not
an attack on all citizens of that country, its a personal expression of
dissent. For whatever reason that may be.

Patriotism makes people irrational imo


#1288

Well that is your opinion. But tell that to a Marine whose friend fought and died for your freedom.


#1289

Sure, point me in the right direction and I will.


#1290

In my opinion it is, if you don’t like a leader in any country, it would be better to burn or pee on a picture of that leader rather than destroy the country flag.


#1291

Haha, wow, dude… smh.


#1292

What? If someone “died for my freedom” to say that Patriotism makes people irrational, then why is there a problem with me using that freedom?