# Ask HMF anything

**URL:** <https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423>\
**Category:** Off-Topic\
**Created:** [December 25, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423 "2020-12-25T21:04:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrOchoa](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mrochoa/32/123469_2.png) [@MrOchoa](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/MrOchoa)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1598 "2021-10-28T12:10:14Z")

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Yup it was. Got the Game in the short window it was available, thank god.

Imagine a MrOchoa who didn’t played Codename 47 until 2012 lol.

“_Meh, it’s not so great anyway_” 😛

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**Author:** ![Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/hichkas/32/83933_2.png) [@Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Hichkas)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1599 "2021-10-28T12:16:26Z")

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Imagine if things were mostly online like now days. You buy the game in the window then you can’t play it anymore 😛

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1600 "2021-10-28T12:40:56Z")

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Yep, so that’s still better than what happend to SR2 in Germany lol. It wasn’t banned, but the Cutscenes were censored in an absolutly ridicoulous amount, even for thinks like a Door falling on someone lol.

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**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1601 "2021-10-28T13:25:40Z")

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So it’s just one random NPC? Do you perhaps have a picture of one of them? 🙈

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1602 "2021-10-28T14:09:01Z")

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![Sean](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/e/3e84b951b9416ee8a8e24ff57c95db41cd049606.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1603 "2021-10-28T14:44:16Z")

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KInd of a odd Question, but I plan to introduce a New Group of Characters in my Novel. Originally I planned a Group of SR2, so I also founded a neat one from my Modded Hitman NPCs and am unsure, who to introduce. (Both or merching them are way too many Characters btw.)

I listed all of them down here with a few Stats, there Job and a positive and negative thing about them.

**Raimundo Steen’s Group**

 ![Steen](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/4/24b272e87e3216391d0688cb65d24d8cd140acf1.jpeg)  
Raimundo Steen - Leader  
Caucasian  
Mid 60’s  
Ex-Mercenary  
Wise  
Self Assured  
 ![Bernadette](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/9/f/9f325465aab3dd09760deea69403d9ed16267af9.jpeg)  
Bernadette  
Asian  
Early 20’s  
Student  
Fast Learner  
Snarky  
 ![Frost](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/4/f4492a7721014aa6e0a08e196a74b85d96fa5d3b.jpeg)  
Frost  
Caucasian  
Mid 40’s  
Wrestler  
Strong  
Rarely Talks  
 ![Charles](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/8/0/80221946318c26b7b14bb1f08a3ec54193be4062.jpeg)  
Charles  
Caucasian  
End 30’s  
Real-Estate Agent  
Very Talkative  
Egoistic  
 ![Dennis](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/4/74aa808a2d73d7dde2dd99c09d087e29c4911916.jpeg)  
Dennis  
Irish  
End 50’s  
Doctor of Medicine  
Experienced  
Refuses To Get Into Fights

**Storm’s Group**

 ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.08.16 - 14.30.12.02](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/7/671dc155df696a1458c36b14de80a638e869d859.jpeg)  
Raghu ‘Storm’ Das - Leader  
Indian  
Mid 50’s  
Movie Producer  
Great Strategist  
Refuses to Dress Casual  
 ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.10.25 - 17.32.50.43](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/5/7539088c23d895be3c2805a8ae10b65067a1d9d3.jpeg)  
Risae Ong  
Asian  
Early 20’s  
Fitness Coach  
Athletic  
Refuses To Wear Shoes  
 ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.08.02 - 21.32.04.45](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/8/0/8035053492e0b36728149d36f777143cf82d3a03.jpeg)  
Sawyer Murdoch  
Scottish  
Mid 40’s  
DEA Agent  
Loyal  
Cold  
 ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.10.26 - 22.11.16.07](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/c/0/c0c2a3f21252a2faedacb8f8d267729d07dcd10e.jpeg)  
Ramsay Murdoch  
Scottish  
End 40’s  
History Teacher  
Smart  
Egocentric  
 ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.10.25 - 13.36.47.48](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/9/699370e83685867794ad8da4f6b0ced6280e7fb0.jpeg)  
Tripp Goomba  
African-Caucasian  
Mid 20’s  
Smalltime Fence  
Inventive  
Unloyal

Let me know, which Group sounds more interesting

_Poll ([view on site](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1603))_

It is not impossible that a Character of the Group that doesn’t get choosen, appears by himself/herself at another time.

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**Author:** ![YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/yellowzr1/32/55424_2.png) [@YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/YellowZR1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1604 "2021-10-28T15:05:07Z")

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I’d say it’s a bit difficult for me to decide which one appears more interesting? Would like to know what connections sit between each group. Are they like just a group of neighbors or perhaps something covert like a heist crew? Maybe it can help us decide which one if you let us know what potential role the groups play in your story as well.

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1605 "2021-10-28T15:10:43Z")

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Both are Groups of Survivors in a Post Apocalptic World and (most likely) meet eachother during that (The Apocalpyse), aside from the Murdoch Twins of course.They will meet the “Main” Group about a Year and Half in the Apocalypse, after some… bloody events. (The Main Group experienced those Events btw., not Steen’s or Storm’s Group.)

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**Author:** ![YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/yellowzr1/32/55424_2.png) [@YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/YellowZR1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1606 "2021-10-28T15:19:55Z")

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I see. So they will likely be a group of antagonists, who may intervene the Main Group’s plan and action.

I think I will go with Storm’s group. The reason is they have a more ‘realistic’ looking to the occupations and traits you list. But I think it will be important to get to know more about Storm’s backstory - how he manages to become a strategist from his line of work from movie set. And maybe he can show more brutal sides during the story, considering sharp-dressing villains usually have a whacky side, I think. 😉

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1607 "2021-10-28T15:25:12Z")

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Actually there aren’t Antagonists (So of course there is the Option that someone has hidden intentions, nonetheless.)

At the same time, there also, of course, not foolishly good samaritans, since those usually don’t make it too long in those scenarious unfortunatly.)

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**Author:** ![DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/drmekar/32/7469_2.png) [@DrMekar](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/DrMekar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1608 "2021-10-28T15:36:48Z")

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Here’s a list of the Characters further expanded upon in the Context of the Story:

Steen: Knows a lot useful Things for many situations, but is hard to convince taking a different route, once he setteld.  
Bernadette: Learns Fast, but her fast Tongue could also lead to unnecessary conflict.  
Frost: A Real Force in Combat, but useless in Conversations.  
Charles: Can most likely convince anyone of anything, but puts himself first.  
Dennis: If your Injured Bad, but can be saved, Dennis will be the Man. If the Shots fall though, he hides in the Bushes.

‘Storm’: Can get you out of most situations, but his look isen’t too usual and seeks attention.  
Risae: Fast Runner and High Jumper, but a Liability in Snow at the very least.  
Sawyer: He can be trusted, when everyone stabs you in the Back. Unfortunatly his Career buried his Emotions deep in the Ground.  
Ramsay: Knows a lot of Things, but is hard to convince of New Ones.  
Tripp: Creative and Inventive, but No Man For Ties

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**Author:** ![bgyorok](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/bgyorok/32/73918_2.png) [@bgyorok](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/bgyorok)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1609 "2021-10-28T18:33:31Z")

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How do you pronounce Chongqing? Chong Ching or Chong king? I hear both everywhere and it’s driving me nuts!

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**Author:** ![YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/yellowzr1/32/55424_2.png) [@YellowZR1](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/YellowZR1)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1610 "2021-10-28T18:49:51Z")

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Assuming you’re talking about Chinese pronunciation, then the former one is the correct way. “Ching”, depending on its tone, can be written and pronounced in numerous Chinese letters, like “青” (qīng, blue) “情” (qíng, affection) “請” (qǐng, please) or “慶” (qìng, celebrate). However, there isn’t such pronunciation as “king” in Chinese (at least in Mandarin, not sure about Cantonese), nor can it be written in any character.

Hope this info helps. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Khakiasp](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/khakiasp/32/134293_2.png) [@Khakiasp](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Khakiasp)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1611 "2021-10-28T18:57:11Z")

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From what ive heard from people that speak the language its pronounced as chongching, with chongking being the english romanization

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**Author:** ![Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/hichkas/32/83933_2.png) [@Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Hichkas)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1612 "2021-10-29T16:33:08Z")

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@Euler13 sorry to bother, I had a question. The video below constructs a situation, where an infinite hotel runs out of rooms under certain circumstances. While it’s understandable that in the last case there can always be more strings, why would the hotel have “no more” rooms considering there can always be one more room?

[![](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/8/2/82b350b72111e52c1072ca4e397ab55b7079a84f.jpeg "How An Infinite Hotel Ran Out Of Room") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGsU8oIWjY)

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**Author:** ![Euler13](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/euler13/32/285_2.png) [@Euler13](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Euler13)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1613 "2021-10-29T18:12:19Z")

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An easy one for Friday evening, eh? 😉

I’ll give it a go, but I’ll probably create more confusion than clarity.

The issue is to do with what we call denumerability. If a set of objects (like room numbers) are denumerable, then it means that each element can be put in a one-to-one mapping with the set of counting numbers. We call these types of numbers countably infinite.

So when we ask someone in room n to go to room n+1 (as in the first case) or to room 2n (in the second case), each occupier of the original room has a clearly defined place to go. No one will be confused or uncertain which room they are being moved to.

In the last case, it turns out that the infinite set of binary strings (made of A’s and B’s or 0’s and 1’s) are not denumerable. Meaning there is no system that would allowing a clear mapping between, say, a particular string and a room number.

In other words, there are degrees of infinity. The smallest measure of infinity is the counting numbers and the “size” (cardinality) of this set is designated as aleph\_0. The real numbers (or infinite set of binary strings) have a larger measure of infinity and it is designated as “c”; not to be confused with the speed of light!

Simply put, the size of the hotel is countably infinite. The cardinality of the last bus is not.

If something is not clear, please ask and I’ll try to explain. However, it has been wisely said that the infinite is quite literally more than we can ever understand.

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**Author:** ![Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/hichkas/32/83933_2.png) [@Hichkas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Hichkas)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1614 "2021-10-29T19:02:25Z")

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Thanks for the response!

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> If something is not clear, please ask and I’ll try to explain. However, it has been wisely said that the infinite is quite literally more than we can ever understand.

The wise were right tbh… I’ll ask if something was still unclear, which is probably the case 😬 but first things first I have to put a bit of time into understanding this one.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1615 "2021-10-29T19:09:43Z")

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Doesn’t it all depend on the interpretation of “infinite?” I mean, infinite really only means that the finite boundary of the subject is not known, it doesn’t necessarily mean that there _isn’t_ one, right? So one can theoretically declare something infinite as having finite possibilities, just that it is impractical, implausible, or impossible to actually count out the numbers and find where the finite boundary is, making it both infinite and finite simultaneously. Or am I off? It’s been a while since I considered such mechanics and the stuff in my head on the subject had collected dust.

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**Author:** ![Euler13](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/euler13/32/285_2.png) [@Euler13](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Euler13)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1616 "2021-10-29T19:31:14Z")

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Literally the word infinite means not finite - not countable. However, the term infinite has many connotations. One way in which mathematicians try to (formally) make sense of the infinite is in the area of set theory. This work is primarily credited to the brilliant 19th century German mathematician, Georg Cantor. The notion of something being countably infinite is very helpful in understanding other concepts in mathematics. However, as Cantor showed, even this measure of infinity is incapable of measuring the size of other sets. It’s in this domain that the popularised paradox of Hilbert’s hotel emerges; the argument was introduced to the world by the incredible German mathematician, David Hilbert, in a lecture he gave the early 20th century.

@Hichkas: If it’s the concept of having a larger degree of infinity that you’re struggling with, I can attempt to explain.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/ask-hmf-anything/423/1617 "2021-10-29T21:43:21Z")

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If 47 drops an infinite number of duckers, would duckers still be infinite? No. Because not everything is a ducker. 😭

_Looks at 47 under a microscope at the planck scale, sees that he’s made of ducker at this level. Yet, the empty space between duckers is NOT ducker._ 🤔 … 😭

As for the hotels Rms. I wonder what the case would be if you had a Rm -1, and infinite going the other way? With the starting _limit_ of a Rm 1 you have to expand from there. Then let’s say you have floors going up infinitely. Still unlimited but “limited”? Then lets have a basement with -1st floor and Infinite lower levels. Still “limited”? Then hallways (see where this is going? X, Y, and Z dimensions) going towards the back and of the building… Then why not from the front of the building?

So then you have infinite Rms going both left and right, on each infinite floor going up and down, and infinite hallways on each floor from the center going to the back and front.

Now could this infinite party bus be accommodated? Do we have to go to a 4th spacial dimension? Why stop there?

Sounds like a Front Desk person’s version of hell. Not just any hotel hell…

There’d be a random number of Rms calling down complaining about the TV not working, how do you turn on the heat or AC, the toilet is clogged, there’s a stain on the bed-sheet, I’ve locked myself out of my Rm, I’ve lost my Rm key or got it too close to my cell phone, have you seen my significant other? Their car is out front and I can’t seem to reach them. The people next door are being too loud, the smoke alarm is going off, may I get a wake-up call? and on and on…

Getting a headache just thinking about it.

I’m not asking for clarification on anything, I just let my mind run wild there for a while.

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