Cross committed suicide on my run. Threw himself off a balcony. You can watch my video. I started in the gardners’ outfit, but there’s one in the basement if you want to start suit only. And if you’re going to start suit only, you have to have an exit plan. Only two exits, both trespass zones, both with two guards, one with a camera the other with a non-guard NPC. Starting as the gardner allows you to exit easy. I couldn’t figure out a ghost like way to exit in suit only.
I’m thinking that the vent mechanism looks the same before and after the screwdriver, so whatever he’s doing is not easily detected. So, for my run I’m just using the screwdriver. The more obvious problem is the gate is wide open. You would think someone would notice that. Wish IOI would allow us to close vents and doors after ourselves.
What are everyone’s thoughts on Romania, other than … yuck.
Just finished figuring out my Mendoza route, so that’s all that’s left. I don’t see anyway to ghost it (without trying yet). First, you’re a captive and everyone knows you’re there. Next, you start without gloves and the only way to get clothes in the first part is knocking folks out.
Using lots of fuses to run past guards is an obvious sign you were there. Nothing about Romania seems ghost like.
Can we just agree to end with Mendoza?
It doesn’t count as an accident in-game, unless I’m completely mistaken. So you’d have to do something non-ghost-like with the body. OTOH, if you allow “KO and throw off the roof” to count as an apparent suicide, you could use the cake opportunity to arrange that.
You might roleplay beyond what the game mechanics allow, by pausing a second after passing through to “close” it.
At the very least, a door needs to be crowbarred (from the inside) and the train cars need to be disconnected before the one person in the front part mysteriously dies while the high-profile prisoner, known (in the right circles) to be a legendary assassin, disappears. Something definitely happened there. 
OTOH, only Providence knows 47 was imprisioned there, and Diana now controls Providence. A “kill everyone” run might leave outside investigators little to go on beyond “mysterious secret train was attacked by mysterious adversaries”, assuming Providence doesn’t bury the investigation entirely.
Th cake doesn’t count as an accident, but unless my memory is faulty, it also doesn’t invalidate SA, and considering the nature of the kill, it’s probably unintentional that the game doesn’t officially count it as an accident.
I just had a realization. You can escape in the tuk tuk in Bangkok. If you have a disguise that should be a much easier exit than the other two.
Yes, that’s the plan that led me to start in the gardner’s disguise. In my rules, you have leave in the outfit you started in.
Tried it just now. SA was lost as soon as the body was found.
Hmm, then either they’ve changed it, or I’m remembering wrong and confusing it with something else.
The answer to the question that started this thread is … No. I can’t follow my rules on all 21 maps. Carpathian Mountains is impossible, as far as I can tell. The game forces you to wear an outfit without gloves. My not-a-ghost run had zero knockouts, but I wore two sets of clothes without gloves.
I hear PC players can get a mod where they can wear gloves with any disguise. Maybe they could do it. Alas, I fell short.
Still, it was a lot of fun. Now what am I going to do?
You should try the other missions. Patient Zero, Special Assigments, Elusive targets etc…
I know you try to do this on your rules. But Carpathian Mountains is impossible from the beginning: They already know 47 is there.
The idea being that nobody knows he’s escaped from containment, so the idea is to make it seem like it’s some other saboteur, possibly Edward himself, the only person in the section of train that the rest was disconnected from and who conveniently “doesn’t remember anything” once he’s found and questioned.
But wouldn’t any of the guards and scientists on the train notice Edwards? He would have to walk all the way with 47 from the back of the train to the front.
If you’re going for SA, nobody should see you at all, nobody should be KOd or killed, and other than a single instance of the lights going on and blinding some guards, nobody should be aware anything is even happening until the front of the train disconnects from the rest. So, the rest of the train, which is now stopped and stranded on the tracks, will call in to get picked up by someone, go looking for the first car of the train, and assuming one follows the almost-certainly-canon outcome of erasing Edwards’ memories, they’re just gonna find him there, the only one who is in a position to have disconnected the train. 47 being gone when they check the lab may or may not be seen as an explanation, as he could have just woken up and escaped after the train ground to a halt.
Ok, didn’t think of that, you’re right. That could be an explanation. And it’s another reason for IOI to finally give us the option to start in whatever suit we want once we’ve finished this mission (as promised a long time ago…).
Trying to do Patient Zero when I get to Hokkaido in ghost mode would be, um, interesting. Never liked that mission.
I did pretty much that, no knockouts, no kills. Used one fuse to blind the guards (pretty sure there’s no other way around them since two are staring right at you as you approach that narrow entryway and never move). I did change into two disguises to get through choke points, but two of the three are without gloves.
Only answer, I guess, is to do it on a PC with mods. I believe there’s one mod that allows you to wear gloves with any disguise.
Here it is. My very first ghost run. This also the first playthrough I upload here. Out of all H1 maps, this is definitely the easiest.
Canonically, Carpathian Mountains is supposed to start with 47 wearing only pants. And, if played right, nobody should die during it. Therefore, it is the one mission in the trilogy, other than the ICA Facility missions, where wearing gloves is not only not required, but is nullified from the very start, so I don’t really concern myself with getting gloved disguises. 47 can’t even leave the initial room without touching something and getting his fingerprints on them, so finding a gloved disguise is pointless. The focus should be on either doing it Suit Only (starting outfit) or changing into disguises already lying around and KOing no one.
Besides, this is the one mission where any evidence 47 does leave should be ok, because Providence is going to scrub that train down thoroughly to hide evidence of their own presence, since Diana doesn’t dissolve the organization until a month later, and still does so more or less covertly.