# First Thread on HMF **URL:** \ **Category:** Site Feedback\ **Created:** [December 20, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12 "2020-12-20T00:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/wincenworks/32/8846_2.png) [@wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/wincenworks)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/21 "2020-12-31T23:17:35Z")
The editing period grace time is 5 minutes However there is a 100 character limit for new members and a 400 character limit for established members - basically to ensure it’s not used to troll via posting an inflammatory manifesto then edited to something short and harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/22 "2021-01-01T09:12:30Z")
You’re saying that if my post shorter than 400 chars, while editing it even within those 5 minutes, the edit marker will still appear? Because sometimes that marker shows up even if to edit a post after few seconds of posting it ---
**Author:** ![wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/wincenworks/32/8846_2.png) [@wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/wincenworks)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/23 "2021-01-01T09:19:26Z")
If you are level 0 or level 1, which lots of people currently are, and you change more than 100 characters it will always show as edited. If you are level 2 or above, then this limit goes up to 400 characters. ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/24 "2021-01-01T09:23:16Z")
Thank you for clarification ---
**Author:** ![CamTheChest](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/camthechest/32/78103_2.png) [@CamTheChest](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/CamTheChest)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/25 "2021-01-01T09:23:38Z")
Was it like this in the old forum? I thought it was regardless how many characters you used there was a 4 minute grace period. And naturally I assumed it was an untouched setting since it’s a new forum and all. Intimately I can understand this change, but for a lot of times it was a convenience to not have the edit marker if you wanted any last minute changes after posting. ---
**Author:** ![wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/wincenworks/32/8846_2.png) [@wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/wincenworks)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:28am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/26 "2021-01-01T09:28:46Z")
> [@CamTheChest](#): > > Was it like this in the old forum? Hard to say without going through all the Discourse change logs - the software is constantly being patched and generally I always update without interrogating simply because not updating in a timely manner has caused problems in the past. Some are also problems, like the “auto dark mode detection” that is in theory a great feature but ultimately also requires you heavily limit your design because it only lets you update a handful of colors (that can’t use any feature like opacity etc) > **[Discourse](https://blog.discourse.org/)** > > Learn about about the powerful, open source community platform. ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/27 "2021-01-01T14:31:45Z")
![Opera_2021-01-01_161353_www.hitmanforum.com](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/2X/e/e410425727aa1558a599a62a2a6b5d5e16c7aac1.png) Is it really necessary to copy external images into forum database? I mean what the sense of it when image is displayed normally from a different website? It only loads the server’s space and makes heavier the database itself. Only purpose of this function I see is making images always available even if external website is down or the source image is deleted, but does it makes really profit in sense of forum/database stability and optmization? And the other thing regarding images. I believe the forum doesn’t delete the lost attachments. I mean the images that have been uploaded during composing a reply, but been either deleted or replaced while composing or shortly after. And that image won’t be used ever again because of a unique id, but still is stored on the server. And if the server has billions of this kind of lost attachments, it also takes a sigificant amount of space and affects stability ---
**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/28 "2021-01-01T15:43:38Z")
This way we staff can be sure to check misuse of posting images, as deleting an image from a post or from an external server still makes us able to see what abusers try to hide. Or you as well if you check the edit history of a post. The system should automatically delete unused images after some time. ---
**Author:** ![rieper47](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/rieper47/32/1570_2.png) [@rieper47](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/rieper47)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/29 "2021-01-02T16:11:38Z")
thanks, I’ve done it 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/31 "2021-03-12T08:50:29Z")
Just caught a first ever 502 error on this new forum. Gone pretty quickly after instantly refreshing a page (with browser button, not forum’s one). Just decided to get it known ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/32 "2021-05-02T10:20:07Z")
![Opera_2021-05-02_131722_www.hitmanforum.com](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/5/2534308a8913e6110e4b7072393cebf4ed4f558f.png) Another 502 (and 521 while posting this). Lasted for a few minutes ---
**Author:** ![wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/wincenworks/32/8846_2.png) [@wincenworks](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/wincenworks)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/33 "2021-05-02T10:21:13Z")
That was the software getting some significant updates - required taking the server offline for a bit to have that particular software updated, and a reboot so security patches could apply properly. ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/34 "2021-05-02T10:22:39Z")
Ok. I’m reporting just in case ---
**Author:** ![Kalashnikov](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/kalashnikov/32/55202_2.png) [@Kalashnikov](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Kalashnikov)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/35 "2021-05-03T11:35:55Z")
Hello again fellow 47’s. I never seem to learn, just like the last time HMF was updated, I noticed I couldn’t log in and had a mini heart attack, lol. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I wonder if there’s an “Old Forum” archive like last time? ---
**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/36 "2021-05-03T11:41:21Z")
Now it’s available only here: > [@Preserving all 10,000+ HMF posts](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/preserving-all-10-000-hmf-posts/525): > > The link for the archive is: [https://hitmanforumarchive.notex.app](https://hitmanforumarchive.notex.app) Huge thanks to swixel (orloglausa) without him this wouldn’t have been possible. Information: 10,521 topics archived in total (The 12.1k stat on [https://archive.hitmanforum.com/about](https://archive.hitmanforum.com/about) is probably counting private topics that are not accessible unless signed in with an account that has access to those so I’m not worrying too much about missing anything that is public. [Archive.org](http://Archive.org) link: [https://archive.org/detail…](https://archive.org/details/hitmanforumarchive) ---
**Author:** ![thefixer47](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/thefixer47/32/139438_2.png) [@thefixer47](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/thefixer47)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12/37 "2025-04-28T21:06:23Z")
Hello there. Why am I always so late? [Previous page](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/first-thread-on-hmf/12.md?page=1)