# Freelancer - General Discussion

**URL:** <https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/freelancer-general-discussion/17691>\
**Category:** Freelancer\
**Created:** [January 26, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/freelancer-general-discussion/17691 "2023-01-26T11:23:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![474747](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/474747/32/55825_2.png) [@474747](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/474747)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/freelancer-general-discussion/17691/5192 "2024-02-27T19:35:46Z")

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I’d like to make clear that at no point have I outright stated or implied that the authors are infallible and any perceived mistakes are still the gospel truth. I agree with you on that so your pontificating essay zealously trying to debunk an opinion I do not hold was a complete waste of both our time.

My problem with your take on the canon is that you seem to be under the impression that because authors are capable of mistakes that means your interpretation of things is not subjective headcanon but just as valid if not more so because you have spent the last 17 years obsessing over the storyline which makes you the grand loremaster and you project this upon Freelancer thinking just because it thematically fits at the end of the game and you see nothing that contradicts it so it must be canon but the same argument can be made of all supernatural aspects to the game and you obviously agree that’s just a bit of silly fun. Just references and easter eggs. Even without developers having to say so.

Freelancer not being canon does not cause logical inconsistency or lore problems and the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. Absence of proof is not proof itself. You can not disprove god therefore god must be real. Just change god with Freelancer except we do have proof on the contrary word of god by the developers themselves.

You rely on the words of the developers when it suits you and dismiss it completely when it doesn’t align with your opinion.

Like Erigu put it making fun of you and you even liked his post which to me suggests you are severely lacking in the self-critical department and before you go and unlike it I already screenshot it.

> [@Erigu](#):
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> “They said it was officially canon!  
> -They also said it wasn’t.  
> -It doesn’t matter what they say, my point still stands!”

You gave no source for this statement. No proof.

“It has been stated that Freelancer is a canon occurrence in the timeline”

> [@The Undying returns (Play for Free Y5: April 17 - May 11 2025)](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/year-4-the-undying-returns-march-22-april-21-2024/20707/22):
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> It has been stated that Freelancer is a canon occurrence in the timeline, and that the presence of past targets and lack of changes to the maps is a gameplay limitation that we are meant to ignore. The same can be said of the ETs; many of them take place on maps where the same things that happened in the main game still happen, such as the fashion show and auction in Paris. This is explained as there being multiple fashion shows and auctions that Novikov and Margolis host each year, and that th…

Then Fleur claimed otherwise and he brought receipts unlike you.

> [@Fleur](#):
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> Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Associate game director of Freelancer, Jonas Breum Jensen:
> 
> > Freelancer exists in a separate parallel timeline.
> 
> > On the one hand the narrative of being a freelancer and operating solo with Diana, but without belonging to a bigger organization like ICA, fits with where the story of where Hitman 3 ends. But on the other hand the actual on-mission gameplay in Freelancer takes place on the same time as the main missions, in most cases, so that gives a narrative disconnect to make the post-Hitman 3 idea work fully […] we also decided to leave a bit of ambiguity so that players who like to pretend that the gameplay takes place after Hitman 3 can do that, without too much distraction from the established canon.

> [@Fleur](#):
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> Basically, it is set up so that you can roleplay it as being connected to the main story, but it is in fact _not_ canon.
> 
> [Hitman: Freelancer Interview - Jonas Breum Jensen and Torbjørn Vinther Christensen](https://screenrant.com/hitman-freelancer-jonas-breum-jensen-torbjorn-vinther-christensen/)

Then all of the sudden the developers opinion on the matter is irrelevant to you.

“Not relevant.”

> [@Heisenberg](#):
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> Not relevant. As I’ve pointed out before, first and foremost, the intentions and views of the creators of a work are not the final be-all/end-all say on the matter because of changing views, different inputs when there’s more than one person involved in its creation, and what actually ends up happening within the established work down the line, regardless of the creator’s original intention.

No person should waste time arguing with you but alas I feel a sense duty to prove you wrong so others may see you for what you are - an intellectually dishonest person who doesn’t argue in good faith.

It’s been fun but why continue arguing ad infinitum about this when it isn’t going anywhere? Can’t say I won’t be tempted to continue in the future but for now I am done.

This is shall be my magnum opus for I have defered to the developers themselves and pointed out the flaws in your character and there is nothing more I feel I can add to the discussion. If you aren’t willing to accept the literal definitive answer from IOI there is nothing you’ll accept and you can keep making all types of baseless claims you want and I hope others will see through it and not give you the time of day.

Too be fair I don’t think you are completely without good and reasonable opinions and arguments but it is obvious you stop caring about objective truth when it’s a topic you care about deeply which is honestly sad.

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