# General News 1.0

**URL:** <https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215>\
**Category:** Off-Topic\
**Created:** [December 24, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215 "2020-12-24T15:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Screaming\_Meat](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/screaming_meat/32/82181_2.png) [@Screaming\_Meat](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Screaming_Meat)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2708 "2022-02-21T09:10:04Z")

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i’m enjoying the “rogue bank” deflection. it’s pretty evocative; makes me think of a rock and roll bank that all the other banks shake their heads at despairingly as it smashes up expensive hotel rooms and bangs lines of credit off the coffee table.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/accidental_kills98/32/155797_2.png) [@Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Accidental_Kills98)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2709 "2022-02-21T09:13:37Z")

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“We aren’t a rogue bank, we don’t have enough rogue bankers to be a rogue bank” is almost as bad as “We aren’t a rogue bank, we are simply taking money from literally anyone even criminals and people with bad histories with money and not asking questions”.

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**Author:** ![Force\_Obscure](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/force_obscure/32/29591_2.png) [@Force\_Obscure](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Force_Obscure)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2710 "2022-02-21T19:17:10Z")

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> **[Putin set to recognize Donbass – Kremlin](https://www.rt.com/russia/550139-russia-recognizes-independence-donbass/)**
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> Putin will announce that Moscow will recognize the sovereignty of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, the Kremlin has said

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**Author:** ![Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/count.rushmore/32/173_2.png) [@Count.Rushmore](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Count.Rushmore)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2711 "2022-02-21T19:21:51Z")

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**Author:** ![Sean](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/sean/32/99959_2.png) [@Sean](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Sean)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2712 "2022-02-22T00:31:45Z")

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So maybe we’re not looking at a full invasion? I’m not Ukrainian so I don’t know, but it looks like Putin wants to back the separatists to push their occupation further into Donetsk and Luhansk.

I’m not Russian either, so I don’t know what goes on in that psychopath’s mind.

> **[Putin orders forces to 'maintain peace' in Eastern Ukraine after recognizing...](https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6359253)**
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> Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered forces on Monday to "maintain peace" in separatist regions of Eastern Ukraine in a further escalation of tensions that followed the Kremlin's recognition of the areas' independence, despite warnings of...

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/accidental_kills98/32/155797_2.png) [@Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Accidental_Kills98)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2713 "2022-02-22T00:42:55Z")

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Also worth mentioning that the Russian market dipped by like 10 percent.

> **[Rouble sinks, stocks plunge as Russia recognises Ukraine breakaway regions](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/rouble-recovers-1-week-low-strengthen-with-ukraine-tensions-focus-2022-02-21/)**
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> The rouble tanked on Monday, slipping past 80 against the dollar, while stocks plunged to their lowest in over a year as Russian President Vladimir Putin called for the immediate recognition of two breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.

I have to admit this was I thought was the “best” case scenario for all of this. (My worst was an invasion and occupation of Eastern Ukraine).

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**Author:** ![Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/heisenberg/32/143140_2.png) [@Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Heisenberg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2714 "2022-02-22T00:43:43Z")

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Putin doesn’t want to invade; he wants Ukraine to voluntarily join with Russia, or enough of it as to not make any real difference. That’s why he’s recognizing the separatists. As long as he gets enough people, he gets what he wants. The troops are likely a bluff and probably always were. Parts of Ukraine are falling for it.

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**Author:** ![ZeroGravitas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/zerogravitas/32/144781_2.png) [@ZeroGravitas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/ZeroGravitas)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2716 "2022-02-22T11:11:03Z")

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> **[Colombia legalises abortion in move celebrated as ‘historic victory’ by...](https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/feb/22/colombia-legalises-abortion-in-move-celebrated-as-historic-victory-by-campaigners)**
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> Colombia has decriminalised abortion during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy, following rulings in Mexico and Argentina that improve access to abortion

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**Author:** ![Force\_Obscure](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/force_obscure/32/29591_2.png) [@Force\_Obscure](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Force_Obscure)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2717 "2022-02-22T11:23:21Z")

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> **[Germany suspends Nord Stream 2 certification](https://www.rt.com/russia/550232-germany-suspends-nord-stream/)**
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> Berlin has announced it will suspend the certification of Nord Stream 2 after Russia recognized the Donbass Republics

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**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2718 "2022-02-22T11:59:12Z")

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That is one of the sharpest swords we can draw in Germany. With pretty empty gas reserves (that we even partly gave in the hands of the Russian company Gazprom) and already high energy costs we might run into problems the next Fall/Winter. If one followed the history of Nord Stream 2, one will notice that Germany so far never really liked to question it. So it is a bold move.

I wonder if we ever dare to exclude Russia from SWIFT, basically cutting them off financial transfers outside their borders. That would be the most hurting sanction, obviously for us too.

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**Author:** ![Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/heisenberg/32/143140_2.png) [@Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Heisenberg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2719 "2022-02-22T12:23:02Z")

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You know, at this point Russia is presenting itself as potential threat again to the entire West because of its egotistical leader who has something to prove. Why can’t all the groups of counties that have a stake in this not gather together with the intent to declare Russia a potential and intolerable threat to their security, but hold off on declaring it and invite Putin to come sit with them, and then declare it once he’s there and just take him prisoner with troops once he’s there, removing him as Russia’s leader democratically (popular vote by the community of nations), and allowing the Russians to choose new leadership.

Yeah, I know there are numerous issues with that, but why is this not a potential option for countries that promote democracy and insist on policing the world? If you’re gonna imagine such things, then get serious and do it.

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**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2720 "2022-02-22T12:33:17Z")

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> [@Heisenberg](#):
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> Why can’t all the groups of counties that have a stake in this not gather together with the intent to declare Russia a potential and intolerable threat to their security, but hold off on declaring it and invite Putin to come sit with them, and then declare it once he’s there and just take him prisoner with troops once he’s there, removing him as Russia’s leader democratically (popular vote by the community of nations), and allowing the Russians to choose new leadership.

Uh because most likely this causes an automatized declaration of potentially nuclear war from his military against the country who helds him hostage. That is a really really bad idea.

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**Author:** ![Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/heisenberg/32/143140_2.png) [@Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Heisenberg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2721 "2022-02-22T12:35:37Z")

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The majority of his country doesn’t like him or want him in charge, and if the same countries declare that they are already poised to strike if Russia even thinks of retaliating, and everyone is against them, what could they do?

I know it’s not that simple, but just once I’d like to see leaders stop pissing around with displays and gestures and speeches, and _make_ motherfuckers who need to be stopped, actually stop.

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**Author:** ![Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/rimland/32/119228_2.png) [@Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Rimland)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2722 "2022-02-22T12:36:53Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Kills98](#):
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> I have to admit this was I thought was the “best” case scenario for all of this. (My worst was an invasion and occupation of Eastern Ukraine).

I’d say the “best” case scenario would’ve been Russia fucking off. But yeah, among the options involving incursion into Ukrainian territory, sending troops to the separatist(-controlled) regions is arguably the “best” case scenario, providing they stay at that and don’t escalate to the other scenario you mention (or worse).

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**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2723 "2022-02-22T12:43:24Z")

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It is not the people who send the nukes, it is the military. And Putin made clear recently that Russia as such will at some point start a war no matter if they can win it.

[https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1491563974839705602](https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1491563974839705602)

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**Author:** ![Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/heisenberg/32/143140_2.png) [@Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Heisenberg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2724 "2022-02-22T12:56:23Z")

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Right, but I question how loyal that military is if it came down to it. I think, without Putin behind them, if we dare them, they’ll blink. The majority of Russia, even the military, doesn’t want what Putin is doing and I think they’d take the out, if someone took him out.

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**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2725 "2022-02-22T12:59:49Z")

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Given how ridiculous it is it might be worth a try to remove him and hope that his close military circle will not nuke the western world, I suggest you use this thread more for posting actual news or statements to them based on sources and not such comments.

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**Author:** ![Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/heisenberg/32/143140_2.png) [@Heisenberg](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Heisenberg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2726 "2022-02-22T13:06:47Z")

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Right, getting off track here, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/urben/32/156375_2.png) [@Urben](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Urben)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2727 "2022-02-22T14:06:06Z")

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Not a news (article from last year, matter from 2000) but it adds to the perspective at which point things went wrong.

> **[Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule)**
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> George Robertson recalls Russian president did not want to wait in line with ‘countries that don’t matter’

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**Author:** ![ZeroGravitas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/zerogravitas/32/144781_2.png) [@ZeroGravitas](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/ZeroGravitas)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/general-news-1-0/215/2728 "2022-02-22T16:26:05Z")

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> **[Ahmaud Arbery’s murderers found guilty of federal hate crimes](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/22/ahmaud-arbery-murderers-guilty-federal-hate-crimes)**
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> Jury reaches decision after several hours on charges against Greg and Travis McMichael and William ‘Roddie’ Bryan

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