I agree with this 100%. Also whyyyy, I was really hoping he would stay a permanent addition to the series.
I donât think 47 is changing his name. Iâve discussed this with a few guys on the forum today and we are all under the impression heâs referring to being an âAgentâ. After all heâs no longer under contract with the ICA anymore so why would he be referred to as an Agent under contract?
Like you say in terms of marketing, it wouldnât feel right having him go by a different name.
@cake941 @Norseman - This is what I was talking about, the confusion haha
Getting fibre wired by a guy called Johnny Hitman
Can you imagine it? Just wouldnât sound or feel right him having a normal name after all these years.
This was actually my favorite story of the three games, and itâs made me appreciate HITMAN 2âs story a bit more. I thought that Arthur Edwards made for a pretty good villain and I thought Greyâs sendoff at the end of the second mission was surprising but good.
I heard someone mention that this was IOIâs last Hitman game and if it is, I feel like they did a great job for the series finale.
I remember when IOI were saying the most dramatic contract in 47âs career or something along that line. Where was that? Destroying the ICA? The most dramatic thing that happened was Grey killing himself, which is a shame honestly cause I really really liked him as a character and the voice actor behind him is brilliant. The end was great and positive, which is not what they made us believe. I expected 47 on his knee at the end not smiling. But anyway the game is great, nothing spectacular, I still believe that season 1 is the best season in terms of everything⌠the last map (Romania) is a joke and has no replaybility value whatsoever, even ICA facility & Hawkâs bay had more replaybility value. but overall the 5 maps were great especially Mendova, Dartmoor, and Dubia⌠Berlin and China felt like I was palying Absolution.
IOI have confirmed this wonât be the last Hitman game, just the closure of this part of 47âs story.
Obviously IOI are taking a break from the Hitman franchise to focus on Bond.
47 will be back in around 6 or 7 years hopefully
Yeah and when Diana says âMy Family, I know what you didâ 47 doesnât ask her to explain. He knows exactly what she is referring to and apologizes right away.
All the way back in C47 Hong Kong levels they had female guards.
Was talking about guard AI in the current games. So I meant the WoA series, shouldâve really said trilogy
It was pretty good to see, but I wish they had shown some targets from pre-WOA games.
I get that it was probably a matter of having the character models designed, but it would have made an already great scene better.
*ditto with Chongqing when deleting records from the data core, unless I missed any, all of the targets were from H2016 onwards, seemed like a missed opportunity to cram more past lore into the game.
My bad, and yeah it would be good to see.
The only drawback gameplay wise would be you couldnât take the disguise once pacifying them, but Iâd happily live with that.
Yeah I agree seeming some older targets would have been fun, but I think itâs better they kept it just WoA. For new players sakes and also because more than anything this was the WoA finale. Itâs telling itâs own story, 47s progression from Paris to here, and I think zooming through every target from then til now really did a good job of reminding the player how far theyâve come. Going back to people like the fathers wouldâve just thrown off that sense
I want to think about 5.
Bond is probably out in mid-2023, as they were already working on it whilst working on H3.
We might have it in 2026.
Havenât read the whole thread but it occurs to me that unless Iâve missed something massive, we never actually got to know what Edwards intended to do with his newfound power, he just kept saying âChangeâ but there was no indication of what.
Frankly I think itâs a bit of poor writing that he didnât even try to convince Diana or 47 that he was actually trying to change things for the better, and that heâd be better than The Partners. Instead he was just all âHey, I played the hand I was dealtâ and âYeah⌠change⌠thatâs what Iâm aboutâ, he was practically saying âYeah, Iâm the bad guy and you know I am, so Iâm not even going to bother talking about my motivationsâ. In reality bad people with power usually think theyâre a force for good in a warped way, and it wouldâve been nice to hear what Constantâs actual vision for the world was, it even seemed like they might have gone this direction from The Ark Society where Washington talks about how Edwards is different to the rest of Providence because he wasnât born into a powerful family and doesnât have the pedigree. It mightâve actually made the ending more meaningful when you have the sort of choice of what to do with him.
But I guess this is part of WoAâs philosophy of targets only being 100% bad people with little to no nuance
If you listen to dialogue in Mendoza the heralds actually talk about some of the changes The Constant has enacted already. He merged a lot of big Providence companies (Kronstadt, Hamsun etc) under one new company and used the Ark Society land in the Artic to form his own corporate sovereign state. Itâs different at least but Iâm not sure why or what benefits that could have
Donât think his goal was every to change the world for good and he didnât insult Dianaâs or 47âs intelligence by trying to convince them otherwise. By his speech to 47 at the end about Diana just wanting all the power for herself I think itâs fair to assume his stance on power is that it is inherently corrupting and no one with so much will ever be good, but someone has to wield that power so why not him?
Plus I think the whole âThanosâ angle of a bad guy thinking what theyâre doing is âfor the greater goodâ is a bit played out at this point. I like that The Constant was pretty expressly just out for power for his own sake
Ah okay, missed that Guess I got a bit more replay to do
But they couldâve given us more idea across the three games about what his goals actually were. Whether it was to become mega rich or bring world peace, I donât know exactly what it was that we were stopping at the ending, in a trilogy that started with âMany have fallen by your hand, but by the same token others have risen. Do you know what kind of a world youâve shaped?â the answer is still âno lolâ
He knows Diana is (supposed to be) a character with a sense of morality compared to everyone else he deals with and also she hasnât expressed an interest in power itself, but he just gives her a throwaway line about âbut having power gets you the thing you wantâ as if thatâs meant to convince a lady who has moral objections to your organisation :S
But what part is it Diana really objects to. Is he merely lining his own pockets, or is he continuing to do bad things like earlier Providence and their experiments and clone assassin programs, and Partners with their attempted overthrow of democratic governments and DNA Bioweapon?
Cos yeah the first scenario would mean Diana isnât necessarily selling her soul to the devil by joining, but the latter would mean she absolutely is so it would be pretty weak of Edwards not to even address the fact he (might be) doing really terrible things and sheâll have to carry out his wishes. So weâre left to assume like you say he just likes having power and nice things, but the player isnât really told about what his global plan is, the story is just all about the personalities in H3.
Not in this franchise
I guess technically the militia and Maelstrom, but they were like killing children and stuff, I donât even thinks Edwards was about that life :S
Depends what his plans were he couldâve easily claimed to be morally superior to The Partners and not liked what they were doing. to the world⌠but at the end of the day the catch would be he still wanted to be the one with the power, which would make us go ânah not good enoughâ. Maybe that was exactly what was happening, but he never even referenced whatâs different between him and The Partners (The Partners definitely were doing bad things so youâd hope heâs not the same)
But what did he want with it?! A great stock portfolio? A harem of bald men? Gay Space Communism? He was the one who said âPower is the thing that gets you to the thingâ (terrible quote btw ) so whatâs his âthingâ?
Thank you, I remember hearing that and going âWhat the fuck?â, it violates the âThings Ruleâ.
Other than that I am fine on The Constantâs motives not being explained, I mean so little about him is explained (even his bio as no real information we donât already know, which is a nice touch) and it makes The Constant even more suspect when he talks about change.
haha yeah. i feel like âPower is what gets you from Point A to Point Bâ wouldâve made much more sense. plus it achieves the repetition (âthingâ vs. âPointâ) that i think was the goal in that line.
This. This is what the Constant wanted