# \- The Unofficial Lucas Grey Fanclub - **URL:** \ **Category:** Hitman General\ **Created:** [March 6, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780 "2021-03-06T19:43:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![v1deost](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/v1deost/32/121965_2.png) [@v1deost](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/v1deost)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/150 "2021-03-27T23:19:00Z")
A definite improvement, nice work šŸ‘ Thereā€™s something about the eyes thatā€™s deeply unsettling to me in H3. Uncanny valley, almost. In H2 his eyes had more life in them. idk if that makes sense but thatā€™s my main issue with his H3 model. You handled it well though. ---
**Author:** ![Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/gromova/32/66945_2.png) [@Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Gromova)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/151 "2021-03-27T23:33:40Z")
You have no idea **how right you are**. Even if we leave the model from H3 unchanged, but take the eyes and his gaze from H2, we will already get a nice improvement. Here: ![edit2](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/d/4/d427ea49a0195473bdd01ac67063d931019c3571.jpeg) I dunno. Itā€™s just likeā€¦ he turned into a puppy from a seasoned wolf. He really become lifeless, no matter how ambiguous it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/152 "2021-03-28T00:53:58Z")
Yes, lifeless is the right word. With his Hitman 2 model he looked more like the character he is- you can see the years of pain in his face. That is totally lost in the Hitman 3 model. And I think the H2 model looks more ā€œrealisticā€ than the H3 model. ---
**Author:** ![Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/luiluix/32/9511_2.png) [@Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Luiluix)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/153 "2021-03-29T17:20:10Z")
I think it just makes sense to ā€œreduceā€ his quality since he is barely visible in H3, we only see him close enough during DubaĆÆ, but I understand yā€™all are sad he looks different ---
**Author:** ![Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/gromova/32/66945_2.png) [@Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Gromova)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/154 "2021-03-29T17:59:32Z")
Hmm. Devā€™s have a tendency to slightly change characters (hello, 47) from game to game. We can see him close enough in ā€˜ā€˜reflectionsā€™ā€™ (Romania) and not only during cutscenes. Iā€™m still inclined to think that IO tried to make Grey look like ā€˜ā€˜newā€™ā€™ 47 (theyā€™re brothers, after all). But the problem is that THIS appearance doesnā€™t fit him šŸ˜… ---
**Author:** ![EvilGeniusRo](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/evilgeniusro/32/124328_2.png) [@EvilGeniusRo](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/EvilGeniusRo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/155 "2021-03-29T18:11:42Z")
Maybe IO cut corners to reduce the gameā€™s file size as much as they could and since Grey model was used only for low quality videos, it was an easy picking. šŸ™‚ Itā€™s not like he was important or anything šŸ™ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/156 "2021-03-29T19:30:36Z")
Leave this thread. ---
**Author:** ![H\_I\_T\_M\_A\_N\_Statue\_F](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/h_i_t_m_a_n_statue_f/32/153684_2.png) [@H\_I\_T\_M\_A\_N\_Statue\_F](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/H_I_T_M_A_N_Statue_F)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/157 "2021-03-30T21:43:57Z")
I wish we had seen him in this as well: ![simon-lindwall-nemesis-1-lineup](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/4/f/4f1691e5072e930a121c38c206c581d81109ad00.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/158 "2021-04-01T06:02:13Z")
Yes, that coat looks very cool! Seeing that concept he looks more elegant there IMO and not that contrite (I hope thatā€™s the right word šŸ˜…) ---
**Author:** ![Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/gromova/32/66945_2.png) [@Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Gromova)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/159 "2021-04-04T01:01:07Z")
@Mini I remembered your note on Tumblr about his eyes and I thought it would be better to sort out this moment here. In short, he has amblyopia in his left eye. A ā€œlazy eyeā€. This is not confirmed information, I only appeal with the facts that I have. You can catch a glimpse of this in the ā€œOld friendsā€ cinematic: ![2021-04-04-033209922](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/c/6/c66c0afff039950868170f76aafd4a95257b5439.jpeg) His pre-render model also has this detail (however, it looks unconvincing here). ![2021-04-04-033402591](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/4/a46135622724db71a8e5d8ad2e59f278ddc256c5.jpeg) Before I started taking screenshots of him myself, I thought it was a bullshit. However, shots from the front angle say the opposite. ![1617496171](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/1/6/16c88a292d93b492be37f1f1e3b45e5e5b387da1.jpeg) In most cases it is not so noticeable, since he still looks around. But from some anglesā€¦ yeah. ![Tumblr_l_43026675765262](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/d/bddfcd79268b8251f01882376c2f0c7a291f0faa.jpeg) I donā€™t presume to say that it was conceived, Iā€™m not a developer after all (I probably need to look better at his face in H3). But if Grey really has amblyopia, and it is not fault of 3d-artists and animators, this is doubly cool. One more detail to the fact that he is not as perfect as 47 ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/160 "2021-04-04T17:51:18Z")
Wow, thank you! Well, when he had this in Hitman 1 Iā€™m sure it was planned, when they let it stay in Hitman 2. I must watch the cutscenes from Hitman 3 again to see if he has the lazy eye there, too. If yes, itā€™s a pity they never got deeper into his health issues (the elbow, the eyeā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/gromova/32/66945_2.png) [@Gromova](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Gromova)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/161 "2021-04-04T18:41:47Z")
I will not speak for the cutscenes, but I took pictures from all possible angles in ā€œReflectionsā€. It looks like his eyes are okay now. ![1](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/0/b066924102a465d09c2ba57c1f25e7fd929abb71.jpeg) ![2](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/e/6/e63861f3360c8b4bdd57b7617d271f7307187a13.jpeg) ![3](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/c/5/c543a55066100bd049f99e96c0a43970d561653b.jpeg) ![Hitman 3 Screenshot 2021.04.04 - 21.10.45.12](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/8/f/8f9e2b5c00ec38f445541112254cffdea2cd9d12.jpeg) Unfortunately, this is the only location where I have access to his model, and the lighting there is disgusting (there is simply NO lighting there). Therefore, I slightly tweaked the brightness in the photo editor. My only hope now is that someday someone will make a mod with a model swap. šŸ˜… I donā€™t have as much time now as I had two years ago, so I canā€™t afford to mod the game myself. Iā€™ll just go crazy, because I can take one screenshot for three hours. And if before that I have to spend the same amount of time to replace the modelā€¦ šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![EvilGeniusRo](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/evilgeniusro/32/124328_2.png) [@EvilGeniusRo](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/EvilGeniusRo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/162 "2021-04-04T18:50:55Z")
Shame they donā€™t have more characters with more unique features. The gun shop owner with lung cancer that uses a device to speak, Travis with the prosthetic hand and Grey with a lazy eye šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/163 "2021-04-04T19:11:01Z")
Is that a screenshot from him in that coffin? šŸ˜… Maybe you can ask @Luiluix I think he has a mod from the Hitman 3 model if Iā€™m right? Sorry if I got that wrong, I really have no clue on mods haha ---
**Author:** ![TheContractor](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/thecontractor/32/25461_2.png) [@TheContractor](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/TheContractor)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/164 "2021-04-04T19:11:31Z")
Parvati has the prosthetic hand, the new ET is missing fingers. I think IO does a good job in general of making targets look and feel unique (at least visually šŸ˜œ) ---
**Author:** ![TheChicken](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/thechicken/32/105735_2.png) [@TheChicken](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/TheChicken)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/165 "2021-04-05T05:27:08Z")
Donā€™t forget the extremely menacing Lhom Kwai from the Hantu Port sniper mission ![](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/2X/e/e51cb8fcaf98ff6bb03e2dc9c642080121cfa5d7.png) Holy moly. But hey those details about Grey are cool, doubly so if it was intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Pitman](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/pitman/32/2712_2.png) [@Pitman](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Pitman)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/166 "2021-04-05T12:18:25Z")
> [@EvilGeniusRo](#): > > Shame they donā€™t have more characters with more unique features. The gun shop owner with lung cancer that uses a device to speak, Travis with the prosthetic hand and Grey with a lazy eye šŸ˜€ We also had quite a few targets with eye patches. Probably because itā€™s easier to put an eye patch onto an NPC than creating a limb prosthetic. But speaking of limb prosthetics, there was also that one scientist in Absolution who had a metal leg. And Letā€™s not forget Cayne, the wheelchair bound villain of Blood Money. ---
**Author:** ![InfrarerSun](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/infrarersun/32/98368_2.png) [@InfrarerSun](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/InfrarerSun)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/167 "2021-04-05T15:01:35Z")
Robert Knox with his scarred face and Maya Parvatti with her prosthetic arm also come to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Franz](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/franz/32/7052_2.png) [@Franz](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Franz)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/168 "2021-04-06T14:37:35Z")
Alma Reynard with her smoking hot voice, perfect facial features and divine legs, comes to mind as well. šŸ„° Wait, what were we talking about? Lucas Grey also has a smoking hot voice, truth be told. I could listen to that man calmly threatening me to death and still enjoy it somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780/169 "2021-04-25T19:20:24Z")
Okay guys, hear me out. Lucas Grey is alive and he became a teacher! **Meet Mr. Grey!** ![image](https://hitmanforum-v6-s3-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/0/5/053d7804a40a93e00f7f5a477e6974860d8e067d.jpeg) He is kind but also severely. Picture credit goes to @Gromova [Previous page](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780.md?page=7) [Next page](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/the-unofficial-lucas-grey-fanclub/7780.md?page=9)