# Why is Colorado hated **URL:** \ **Category:** Colorado\ **Created:** [February 20, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936 "2021-02-20T17:24:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![IlikeHitman](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/ilikehitman/32/51883_2.png) [@IlikeHitman](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/IlikeHitman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:02am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/43 "2021-08-17T09:02:41Z")
> [@Rimland](#): > > And speaking of the agents, what were you saying about no personality? šŸ˜ I admit that they donā€™t really have a personality,but I can forgive that because I really,really love the concept of undercover agents trying to find and kill you and the concept of killing 5 out of 10. šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![linux\_penguin](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/linux_penguin/32/153257_2.png) [@linux\_penguin](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/linux_penguin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/44 "2021-08-17T10:01:33Z")
> [@Rimland](#): > > . And speaking of the agents, what were you saying about no personality? šŸ˜ I keep seeing this argument about the agents, and although itā€™s not as much as a regular target, theyā€™re still individual people. So I disagree to an extent. The intel page gives you information about each agent as you discover them. Iā€™m not sure if this only works from the bus stop start but it gives info mostly about their personalities and skill as an agent. If you watch them for long enoughā€¦ **Green** talks to a short-tempered bouncer sitting on a chair about the view, and how the bass may be bad for the bunnies. **Davenport** tries to ask a bouncer if heā€™s seen 47 using vague information, but the bouncer ā€œdoesnā€™t work with copsā€ **Rhodes** talks to the biker by the cameras, asking if heā€™s seen anyone, but ā€œnobodyā€™shitting him over the head right nowā€ **Monty** talks to a few people, including **Banner** **Chamberlin** has a conversation with a bouncer in the security room, who wonders what 47 has done to get into this manhunt situation. **Thames** has a go at some smokers who arenā€™t doing their jobs, and he also is forced to blend in after a crew member assumes heā€™s new. Iirc **Swan** has a conversation with **Davenport** , but I donā€™t remember what they say. **Tremaine** has a conversation with the roaming biker. **Lowenthal** has a phone call with the company responsible for getting his food to the remote area, and Iā€™m quite sure he also complains to the bikers in the lounge spot. ---
**Author:** ![Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/mini/32/129844_2.png) [@Mini](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Mini)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/45 "2021-08-19T13:23:45Z")
Aaaaand itā€™s not a ā€œrealā€ hotel IMO. No access to the beach, no pool or spa area, no fitness room. But half of the lower floor is closed and consists only an office and whatever that part is where the craftsman is šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø Hokkaido and Haven felt more like hotels than Bangkok. ---
**Author:** ![Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/rimland/32/119228_2.png) [@Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Rimland)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/46 "2021-08-20T04:55:29Z")
Indeed. While itĀ“s not uncommon for a hotel to not have such facilities, one would expect them in what is supposed to be an exclusive 5-star resort (though the lack of a spa or fitness room could be justified by the fact that is perhaps a dated building). The Himmapan basically just has bars and a restaurant. I canĀ“t help but think that the northern section of the hotel compound was originally meant to contain something like that, perhaps a pool, but due to time constraints they just turned it into a mini-jungle (because thatĀ“s what you want from your luxurious Ć¼ber-expensive hotel, a view obscured by a thick treelineā€¦). The beach is obviously not much a swimming spot, but still should be accessible for some sunbathing or shopping from vendors or so. > [@Mini](#): > > Hokkaido and Haven felt more like hotels than Bangkok. Amen šŸ˜¶ ---
**Author:** ![Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/rimland/32/119228_2.png) [@Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Rimland)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/48 "2021-08-20T07:25:10Z")
Now that you mention itā€¦ It is weird that the Sheikh doesnĀ“t have a pool up there. Or a sauna. Or just about anything beyond a measly golf platform. Not to mention the fact that there are no other floors/rooms from the building accessible. Yeah, when you couple all that with the lack of a helicopter explosion kill, Dubai really is a disappointmentā€¦ šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/freezer/32/74370_2.png) [@Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Freezer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/50 "2021-08-20T07:33:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/accidental_kills98/32/155797_2.png) [@Accidental\_Kills98](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Accidental_Kills98)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/51 "2021-08-20T08:16:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/rimland/32/119228_2.png) [@Rimland](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Rimland)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/52 "2021-08-21T06:33:37Z")
Speaking of sleeping, you did notice that there are only two bed(room)s in his private suite, right? So assuming all three Partners have been staying there alongside himā€¦ Yeah, I assume he does need a VR chip in his brain to create a scenario where he sleeps alone surrounded by his harem and doesnĀ“t have to listen to Stuyvesant snoring or something worse šŸ˜¬ ---
**Author:** ![MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/missmorbid/32/14743_2.png) [@MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/MissMorbid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/53 "2021-09-09T06:36:54Z")
Iā€™m starting to appreciate Colorado more and more. Iā€™ll admit that I was intimidated to play this mission when it came out šŸ˜› This was the first environment that was completely hostile in the suit. All of the npcs can open fire on you except the targets and the hackers A lot of players were upset that itā€™s a hostile map but it makes sense. The militia are a terrorist organization so itā€™s plausible that they would shoot any trespasser on sight. It does make it challenging but once you learn the patrol patterns, it feels so rewarding There are a few things that I would improve about the mission though. I would add more verticality. I wish we could go all the way up the water tower like in the Vector mission. My biggest complaint is all the targets have boring routes except Sean Rose and Penelope Graves. Maybe Maya Parvati and two Militia Spec Ops could walk to the barracks and check up on the Point Man if he takes too long. I wish they would do anything with Ezra Berg. His path is the most dull in the game. It felt more like I was playing a contract than killing an actual target. I also wish we could wear his disguise as he has a mask on. Also, Sean Rose should be armed. It makes me scratch my head. Patrick Morgan in Sarajevo Six has a gun and can attack the player. (Not related but Patrick Morgan is one the hardest targets. I believe he and his guards are enforcers for every disguise. If he sees you, he and his guards will follow you.) Itā€™s hard for me to fear Sean Rose if he cowers when you hold him at gunpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/luiluix/32/9511_2.png) [@Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Luiluix)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/54 "2021-09-09T14:30:40Z")
> [@MissMorbid](#): > > all the way up the water tower like in the Vector mission Though in The Vector weā€™re up a radio tower šŸ˜‰ I agree it would be great if targets had weapons too šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/missmorbid/32/14743_2.png) [@MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/MissMorbid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/55 "2021-09-09T15:27:28Z")
Whoops radio tower I meant šŸ˜… I used to hate Colorado but now Iā€™m a Colorado defender šŸ˜› I like that this is the first mission that made me feel scared and uneasy. Almost every person is a threat. I love the orange/red hue of the mission that gives the map dangerous vibes. I can understand why people would dislike this mission though. Itā€™s not like a gorgeous or exotic location like Paris, Sapienza, Marrakesh, Bangkok, or Hokkkaido. It also does feel really tedious getting a different disguise for the barn, house, and explosive testing site. ---
**Author:** ![Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/luiluix/32/9511_2.png) [@Luiluix](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Luiluix)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/56 "2021-09-09T15:33:54Z")
Yeah, I really like that too, although sometimes I wish they went in different directions, keeping their original idea of the factory or the current farm location but at night šŸ˜Œ ---
**Author:** ![schatenjager](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/schatenjager/32/128982_2.png) [@schatenjager](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/schatenjager)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/57 "2021-09-09T15:47:39Z")
Having just played through Colorado over the weekend, I can say that itā€™s not a ā€œbadā€ level by any means. In a game where every level is actually quite good, one level has to be the worst of them and that probably ends up being Colorado just because of the reasons weā€™ve all talked about (whole map is hostile, too many targets, disguise restrictions, paths, etc.) but being the worst map doesnā€™t mean itā€™s a bad map. ---
**Author:** ![Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/freezer/32/74370_2.png) [@Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Freezer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/58 "2021-09-10T02:02:39Z")
> [@schatenjager](#): > > one level has to be the worst of them Yeah and itā€™s called Bangkok. ---
**Author:** ![Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/freezer/32/74370_2.png) [@Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Freezer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/59 "2021-09-10T02:07:30Z")
But I seriously put Colorado above the following. Paris Sapienza Bangkok Hokkaido Hawkes Bay Whittleton Creek Sgail New York Dartmoor Chongqing Carpathian So what do I know, I have bad taste ---
**Author:** ![schatenjager](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/schatenjager/32/128982_2.png) [@schatenjager](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/schatenjager)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/61 "2021-09-10T03:23:50Z")
I think Colorado and Bangkok both have great qualities. Bangkok is absolutely infuriating when it comes to that dang security room though. ---
**Author:** ![MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/missmorbid/32/14743_2.png) [@MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/MissMorbid)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/62 "2021-09-10T03:25:58Z")
I personally prefer Colorado over Chongqing. Colorado had more interesting targets and kill opportunities. But when it comes to aesthetics, I prefer Chongqing. I want Bangkok to be my favorite level. I love hotel settings. But the Himmapan Hotel doesnā€™t feel like a luxury hotel to me. Where are the amenities? Thereā€™s no pool, spa, or gym. What can the guests at the hotel do other than eating and drinking? Itā€™s just feels like a giant bar. I was looking online and every 5 star hotel in Bangkok I saw had a pool. Adding a pool would be a major improvement to the level. It would look beautiful with the sunset. Imagine if they added Asian decor around the pool. It would look so beautiful. Itā€™s so weird in Hitman 2016 Sapienza had a pool but not Bangkok. Also, make the beach accessible. Please šŸ™ ---
**Author:** ![Crewdy](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/crewdy/32/102682_2.png) [@Crewdy](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Crewdy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/63 "2021-09-14T15:16:23Z")
I hated Colorado until recently. When I first played H2016 a few years ago, it was the level that almost made me uninstall the game (good thing I persevered eh?). 4 targets, entire map is essentially flat and hostile for suit, and basically all NPCā€™s are armed. It was a daunting prospect. I think also it is to do with the massive shift in contrast from maps like Sapienza & Marrakesh which are huge, bright, lively sprawling maps with a lot of open (non hostile) space. Doing SASO on Colorado was one of the most painful but rewarding things I have ever done in a game. The more I play it now via Roulette, the more I appreciate how great of a map it is. All 4 targets have pretty interesting routes with multiple different kill opportunities, disguises are easy to obtain and most areas are easy enough to work around. At the time it felt like the map was quite tightly packed with NPCā€™s, but as I got better at the game and learned how to work around NPCā€™s and get around tighter areas, the map actually feels kind of empty to me now in some ways. Easily in my top 5 maps now though. ---
**Author:** ![Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/freezer/32/74370_2.png) [@Freezer](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/Freezer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:47am UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/64 "2021-09-15T05:47:44Z")
I think Colorado is so easily segmented itā€™s easy to compartmentalise everything, and youā€™re just a fence or a ledge climb away. Also it was worse in 2016 without the grass to hide in. I was still a fan then but it got a huge upgrade in H2 and even again in H3 with multiple exits. ---
**Author:** ![MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/user_avatar/www.hitmanforum.com/missmorbid/32/14743_2.png) [@MissMorbid](https://www.hitmanforum.com/u/MissMorbid)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936/65 "2021-10-04T14:20:39Z")
The level is so much easier since they added foliage. I also love that the tornado shelter exit is no longer mandatory. I think you just need to pass the mission first and then all exits are available. The more and more I play Colorado, the more I appreciate it. The only thing is that I wish more of the mission stories were balanced. Sean Rose got most of the mission stories [Previous page](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936.md?page=2) [Next page](https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/why-is-colorado-hated/6936.md?page=4)