007 First Light News Thread

The main thing I’m getting from this is that First Light is not Hitman, and that’s a good thing. If First Light was just “Hitman with a new protagonist”, it wouldn’t be a James Bond game so if the engine is the same, fine, but the gameplay needs to be unique and it looks like it is.

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But of course they do.

This is honestly so baffling to me. As if the concept of all this exclusivity bullshit in a SINGLE PLAYER game wasn’t already shitty enough. Suits have been the most predatory aspect of the game so far, and to see that they are relegated to just a sub mode that some players might not even play is incredibly stupid.

Man, my Bond fanboy side is screaming to have this game, but my IO hater side is preventing me from doing it, it’s like those angel and demon bits from cartoons. IO, please, stop being so fucking stupid, you would be doing yourselves and everyone else a big favor.

This is indeed another certified…


…moment

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I posted the outfit restrictions on Reddit to make people aware of them and JorRaptor (who made the video I quoted about the restrictions) said that tacsims don’t require an internet connection, and it is true you can’t use outfits in main missions.

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Just to play? Or with progression?

Thats the big question tbh.

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Well according to Arti on the Hitman streams, challenges will be available offline and then sync when you connect to the servers again, but that does contradict the faq and wasn’t so clear.

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Hopefully they haven’t backpedalled on it because they ran into some issue and it wasn’t working properly offline. Because then, presumably, they can port the same thing over to WoA at some point.

Just speculation from me here, but maybe they aren’t allowed to put the outfits into the campaign. IOI doesn’t own 007, and they can’t do whatever they want with him. Maybe Amazon/MGM/Whoever said, it would be too silly having Bond dangling over a pit of crocodiles dressed in a stupid clown costume and stuff like that. If they try to tell a more or less serious story in the game, it wouldn’t fit the narrative.

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Add NakeyJakey and Jake Baldino to that list too (and they Like It) :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Also oh man, I’m reading the lowercase “tacsim” as “fascism” help :sob:

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Just on the first run through the campaign, or ever? Because wow, that would be some serious bullshit, especially with how heavily these different suits for Bond are being emphasized in promotion.

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I suspect that’s the case - whether it was mandated by Amazon/IP managers, or just naturally the Project 007 team at IOI reached the same conclusion themselves - in a game whose focus is telling a cinematic-looking, linear narrative story, you can’t have all kinds of wacky outfit options ruining the vibe.

…which begs the question, why have them at all, and why employ the various bullshit AAA sales tactics to distribute them? Because, once again, IOI have taken another needless and wilfull step to be a studio who makes great games, but who pull actively harmful anti-consumer stunts to the benefit of nobody at all.

I hate that they are SO shit on the business side of things, there’s absolutely no need for it.

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No argument there. I don’t have much concern with it, because I don’t give a shit for the suits in Hitman as well, since all that cosmetic stuff doesn’t serve any purpose. “Buy our DLC and you get some useless crap to decorate your useless safehouse in Freelancer with”. I don’t care, I just want to kill people.

But I am the first to admit, that building up some kind of FOMO to the people who are receptive to that, for something, you can’t even use in the game aside from some challenges aside from the “real” game, isn’t the best way to build up your reputation as a company. But I guess today, while everybody buys the next lootbox and gambles on something good for a few thousand bucks that never comes, nobody cares anymore. Industries like videogames and movies have done a great job over the last decades to brainwash their customers into a “take it or leave it”-mentallity, and this is what you get from that. And just to make that clear: I don’t want to shift the responsibility from the companies to the customer, even if it may sound like that. A company always has the option to make a good product that sells without all that shit.

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Ever, IOI says there are no plans for NG+ or outfits in the campaign.

Then what the fuck is the point of the suits? What was the purpose in all that wishlisting to unlock the extras? I was getting ready to buy the game before release to get access to the preorder suits, but there’s clearly no fucking point in that now, won’t be able to use them for the part of the game I intended to.

This is it, this was the straw. I’m still gonna get the game and enjoy what I will enjoy from it, but I’m done being nice with IOI for the sake of the next Hitman game. Whoever is making the business decisions over at IOI needs to be fired. Immediately. This is bullshit. This is that situation where the private little brand that you could carry happily in your back pocket gets too big for your pocket and stops behaving the way it did to draw you to it in the first place as it grows more corporate. I guarantee you that this information is not going to be seen by the majority of casual players who see all the fancy offered suits and special reskinned items, they’ll think they can play them in the main game, and when they realize they can’t, they’re gonna be less inclined to want extra stuff from IOI games going forward, even if only incrementally.

This is going to cost you money in the long run, IOI, in this pitch to try to squeeze out more on a false impression. More importantly, it’s going to cost you good will. It has now officially cost you mine. I’ll still get any new content for WoA, but for the next Hitman game, unless you people shape up and shape up quick, I won’t be forking over my money for every little thing you put forward in it, nor busting myself for years grinding to unlock everything. You’ve already made 100% completion impossible with your special items only available to certain players with certain platforms and/or who do certain things at certain times that not everybody can do, and I’ve accepted that some things will be forever beyond my reach because of that. You’re helping to condition me to reject your offers in the future because I can’t fear missing out anymore if missing out was never avoidable, so congratulations on shooting yourselves in the foot on that.

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Lol if it really get’s you that riled up, you shouldn’t buy it. Vote with your wallet

No, I still want the game, but just the game. I won’t get any add-ons. And frankly, depending on how things proceed from here, I could live with WoA being the concluding chapter to the Hitman story in my head with 47 just Freelancing for the rest of his days. Before this, that wasn’t something I would have considered, but I’m so pissed that such a scenario is well above zero percent probability now. IOI is on probation in my mind as of now.

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Fair enough. I do think they are doing some scummy business practices, yes. But at the same time, I don’t really care enough. Never cared about skins, they don’t really matter to the game itself so I don’t really think about it.

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It’s more the principle. A lot of the advertisement for the game has been to show these different outfits for Bond, and as a character, one of the things he is known for is his fashion sense. Stands to reason you’d be able to wear all these different things in the main game. And now, less than a month away, turns out that’s a big nope. Where was the mention in all the promotional material for those outfits that they wouldn’t be available for that part of the game? Where was the clarification prior to now. The false expectation is what’s aggravating me.

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damn shame I didn’t preorder yet. good thing I suppose if I can’t use my cosmetics how i see fit

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This makes a lot of sense actually. Back in the EA days, I can’t remenber if it was MGM or EON themselves who gave the directive that Bond doesn’t kill, so we ended up with some games using very weird terms like enemies “dispached” or “neutralized”, even though we clearly shoot them in the face.

This is what confuses me the most. I’d undertand the existence of suits if they were just cool little unlocks you get in game, but they aren’t. They’ve gone to really big extremes to peddle this to players with suits exclusive to specific editions of the game (including the 200-300 dollar ones) and of course the whole Coca Coca ordeal. Even if Amazon is the responsible for not being able to use them in the campaign, IO is not fully innocent here because they still decided to FOMO the shit out of it.

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