Where do the new games say that? The entire point of the Five Fathers was that 47 was literally made from them and that most of his “gifts” for murder came from some of their individual traits, and that his extra chromosome was able to work because of Ort-Meyer using whatever methods he used in making the clones and that it’s responsible for his increased strength and slow aging as a result. If the new games say otherwise (when? where?), then I’m gonna assume that is due to the true info on the research being lost, a major plot point in BM and the reason for Travis’s fumbling with Victoria.
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imma go with yes. he’s working with the ‘baddies’; he’s presented as a monstrous, violent figure and one of a few characters that present 47 with a physical obstacle he must overcome; and he’s a target.
we can argue over his intentions, whether he had been forced into to service, or whether he’s even capable of true agency… but i think that’s giving terrible writing too much credit.
i’ll take that wager!
Also he’s Mexican and has a terrible mustache - real video-game Villain material here
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you are not wrong!
the only minority character that isn’t an outright villain seems to be that cop from the arg.
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At the GAMA facility, 47’s physicals, the true version found in the medical wing, show that he is “one giant stem cell” in Laurent’s own words, something which would only be possible if he was created using them over regular DNA.
Assuming that we continue with this despite this being scientifically impossible, you could still use the Five Fathers DNA and manipulate the stem cells according to what you wanted from each Father (Ochoa’s pain management, Boris’ cunning, Hong’s combat prowess ect.).
IO Interactive is really testing the limits of this with their stubbornness to refuse remastering Codename 47 by the way.
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A real man’s man that loves women!
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To be fair you can be an impediment to a hero and not be a baddie.
Dude you see me arguing over human cloning and Lamarkian inheritance with Heisenberg right? I am giving this terrible writing far to much credit and I am going series wide now. I have given this series bad writing credit for a long time, like discussing the outright racist depictions of the Uwa in Codename.
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Well, the whole point is that it was scientifically impossible… to known science, and in the real world. The idea was that Ort-Meyer figured out how it was possible and that’s why he was ridiculed. I’m gonna guess that the people at GAMA simply interpreted his results as being one giant stem cell for lack of understanding of just what they were looking at.
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Cosmo Faulkner was his name and he was even in the game.
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sure, but we’re splitting hairs here.
as i said in the op, the series hasn’t been great in any regard with this sort of thing. absolution was when it boiled over.
ah, there you go. i recognise the name, but don’t remember his role in the proceedings. in chicago, i take it?
But the way he did it was the conventional way we have done it but more missing step and adding some to the point where it shouldn’t even be feasible even I suspend suspend my disbelief.
There would be no misunderstanding! The DNA and cellular structure of a recombinant clone would be like that of a human and not a stem cell.
True but we are doing Blood Money’s bad treatment of people and poor plot dirty when we say it like that.
In the stinger, he is the Black detective Birdie meets in The Stinger.
Yeah, in the real world with real specimens, but Ort-Meyer didn’t just clone 47, he did other things to him that augmented him that are not actually possible, but in the sci-fi world of Hitman, he discovered a way that is, and nobody has been able to replicate it. If it were as simple as those other scenarios, it would be possible for someone to have done it more successfully sooner. 47 is a genetic anomaly to someone who doesn’t know exactly what they’re looking at and how it was made. Of course Laurent and co. saw it as a stem cell; that’s their field. Specialists see their speciality in things that are mysteries. Oncologists are more likely to see cancer as the answer to a lot of issues that are at first unknown; a virologist is more likely to think infection; and a doctor who works with and manipulates stem cells for a living who sees a physically impossible human (in the real world), created through a means that no one truly knows but looks familiar to him, is going to think stem cells.
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that game has issues with women too.
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That game has issues with everyone. Issues with people of different races, women, gender minorities, social classes and pretty much any group.
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If you mean the model for young females then Contracts is also guilty, all in skirts, bdsm suits or almost naked and one of them almost intact. All with big magumbos ofc 
Or maybe the reason he thinks he looks like a stem cell is because he is made up of them? Ort-Meyer’s way of cloning people in the old canon is the same way Snake was cloned but with five fathers, no mother genetic material and an ectogenetic chamber which makes it impossible for him to exist at all. Also The Franchise was able to get close to it, that is the plot of Blood Money, they were close but no cigar. OM’s research had the genetic techniques they needed and 47 had the right genetic material.
He isn’t an anomaly to them! This was the result of his medical check up! They know exactly what they are looking at, a man made of stem cells. What they don’t know is why and that would mean more testing.
Except an oncologists work on referral, they know it is cancer (or most likely cancer) because a GP has run a test or recognises symptoms of one. Virologists are research scientists and not doctors, you would only see one if you had a super rare virus or a new one. Laurent is a surgeon who specialises in stem cell techniques, he has seen 47’s abnormal results and recognised them as stem cells not normal human cells. His doctor’s recommendation was to keep 47 for further testing to find out what was going on.
I’m just gonna jump in quickly and remind that unlike in WoA, you can actually turn the bloom in Absolution off.
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Interesting discussion!
I agree with almost everything @Screaming_Meat has said. What bothers me about Absolution is the exaggeration of the characters, even of 47. It’s like @MrOchoa said, 47 himself is not a good person, he is not a hero, he is a murderer. So that the player still has the desire to play with him and to find him likable, his enemies must of course be even worse.
The problem with Absolution is: to make the enemies bad, they turned them into caricatures in a niche far from “the norm”. As if anything that is not up to the norm is bad - homosexuality, disability, or just being female. Homophobia, misogyny and ableism are thus presented almost as legitimate methods of dealing with these people - after all, they are evil and they must die.
Of course, the enemies in the WoA trilogy are also oversubscribed, but I think they are better representatives of a “real world”, because the whole thing is much broader here.
It’s about capitalism, corruption, terrorism, politics. Absolution is more about individual fates in a small criminal niche. But while the WoA trilogy is at least an artistically free and exaggerated representation of a complex political and business world as we could actually have it, Absolution is more of a poorly written comic with lousy characters and outdated images.
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exactly! it’s such a dated way of indicating ‘evil’. i’m surprised they didn’t put dexter in a literal black hat.
and again! 
to me, both narratively and subtextually, woa is about control: 47 gaining control of himself and his life; diana struggling with the morality of being in control and the fact she may not be after all; grey trying desperately to break the shackles of control; and all the while, the player - who is likely fairly powerless in real life - is given a fantasy of control over exaggerated representations of late-stage capitalism. i dunk on woa’s overarching plot, but the themes are strong and very relevant.
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