i’ve been hearing a lot lately about some abhorrent things IOI have done, and i’m not sure if the validity of these claims. i’m awful at separating the art from the artist, so i would like to find out if the claims are true or not
edit: all i can remember is something about them donating a ton of money to israel but i can’t find the original post
Hello I’ll preface this by saying that donating money to a country, no matter which side of a political conflict they’re on, doesn’t make someone inherently ‘bad’.
Are you sure the original source was talking about IO Interactive the videogame developer? Because the Israel Outreach Initiative does a lot of non-profit work overseas in support of Israel’s diplomatic and foreign affairs goals. Though I’m also not sure how a corporate entity donates directly to a country. It would have to donate to an Israel-based charity, employer or non-profit like TogetherwithIsrael
I doubt they did, but I’m going with it because there’s still something to learn from it. If they did, it could’ve just been donating to a local charity. If they donated to a charity in Russia, no matter the amount, they would be accused of financing Russia too.
IOI’s in the middle of a major game showcase, the last thing they’d be doing is giving away money Unless it’s a bribe to buy favour with the licensing board so the game can receive a slightly lower advisory rating, to broaden their market access in the country when the new 007 game comes out
@zeldafan643 I don’t know how to regard this thread you started.
I think it’s paramount that if you decide to create a thread to put IO or any other company’s reputation into jeopardy. That you follow up with some kind of evidence to support your claims.
If you can’t do that, then I will have to regard this as an attempt to sow division and discontent between the company and the fan base.
The later is far from welcome on HMF. It’s fine to hold IO accountable, it’s not fine to pull something out of the ass and present it as a full meal.
I don’t know about that. I think there was something about IOI having some kind of collaboration with a company that was pro Zionist (see the link to the topic in this post)… and that being associated with Israel’s treatment towards Palestinians. But I’m surecertain the majority of superpower countries have their dark sides, deep state actors, etc. So there’s no country (or very few) that isn’t completely without some element of evil at work within their system of control… Or are puppets of a larger, hidden power. cough2020coughandwheez
There was another topic poo-poo’ing IOI. The Z(word) thing was part of it, along with utilizing 2 or 3 controversial figures for their Celebr’ETs.
FWIW, I can only see the collab with McGregor as a risky gamble. He’s got plenty of nasty things on his record, but he’s also utilized in various other media, not just as a gimmick for IOI. So I can’t (personally) fault IOI for much else. JCVD’s thing (as far as I know) only came to light shortly after the fact when his ET was already released.
Is IOI a bad company? Eh… No. Definitely not perfect, but I highly doubt they have nefarious/sinister intentions.
Even if IOI was guilty of all of the above, other than a basic background check, no company can be accountable for the opinions and actions of every person and organization they associate with. Imagine having to vet every friend you make in case they say something inappropriate and you get labelled evil because of it.
I agree to a degree. IO could have been more selective in who they choose or at least a more thorough background check.
A lot of the backlash regarding both Gary Busey and Conor Mcgregor could have been avoided in totality by being more selective with who they hire.
IO might not endorse their actions or views. However they become associated with the people they hire for good or worse. Even if this is done by ignorance, it’s tone deaf from IO’s part.
This isn’t a case where they hired individuals who then turned out to be rotten apples. Like when Lucas film hired Gina Carano and then she shared controversial and harmful views.
When you are hired into a big company with a social media presence, your become an extension of their promotion and their values.
Of course there freedom of speech, but they are free to distance themselves from you if the views don’t align.
In this day and age, it’s extremely important that companies are thorough, choosing questionable people can easily lead to major problems. We seen this happen again and again. It’s outright shooting yourself in the foot, by not thinking it through.
In future, IO would benefit from not having celebrity ETs (even thought I expect they’re a good PR hook) and should stick to original characters they retain the rights to.
We live in a society where if someone does something controversial, it’s become par for the course for everyone and every company they’ve been connected to, to make a statement distancing themselves from the individual and their opinions. To fail to do so within an immediate timeframe defaults them to the position of assumed support for the views in question. I suppose the wider issue is that one person’s actions or words shouldn’t auto-incriminate everyone around them to the point where they need to have face saving statements at the ready. Individuals should be viewed as individuals, without those around them being guilty by association until they make a public display of ostracization.
That said, the Conor Mcgregor ET was a gamble from the start because he’s a heel whose media persona is based around bad behavior. Though I always wondered if his notoriety was the reason IO thought people might want to throw an exploding duck at him
No, Conor MacGregor was a gamble because he’d been accused of assault and sexual assault multiple times when they hired him and had a rape case making its way through the courts. Conor MacGregor isn’t playing a "heel”. He’s a terrible human being.
Oftentimes the heel persona bleeds into reality when they think themselves invincible. I wasn’t aware he was going through a legal battle at the time of the ET, had he been found guilty of the other offenses at the time?
Rockstar had a similar issue with using celebrities in the pre-GTA IV games because of complaints of verbal abuse and inappropriate remarks too. It also creates an issue of if you want to re-launch an ET, or if the celebrity should die or retire and become unavailable. It just seems unwise to tether your company to the reputation of another (especially performers whose fame often comes from drama).
I believe IO was ignorant in their hiring. That they didn’t take the necessary steps to avoid a scandal. I hope that they understand this now and going forward they are more selective.