Epic Games Exclusivity and how it will affect the release of Hitman 3

It’s been like that since from the beginning. It’s worse when they posts issues on the Steam community pages for Epic exclusive games :laughing:

Steam’s forums are very populated in a time when most forums are fading away. I don’t blame people for posting there, really. I posted about some technical issues with Control on Steam when that first came out, for example.

That said Hitman is popular enough to have lots of forums like this one, so it is a little silly.

I believe Epic wants that to happen. I read how they don’t believe in having a forum because it will split existing communities, or something.

But you can, you just have to wait a couple of days / weeks until the H2 situation is sorted out.

This. Have you seen Steam forums? It’s the most toxic place I’ve ever seen.

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Steam forums in part because they lack proper moderation. There is some moderation, but it’s up to the devs to provide it. That’s part of the problem of getting official forums up and running, time needs to be spent by Epic AND on the devs who need to assign a person to keep an eye on the posts (IO in this case). Don’t necessarily have to have one - five mods per forum, but it’d make the mods lives easier.

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Oh surely won’t be a matter of days, but months :wink:

Having read a lot of the various comments over on the Steam forum, I secretly (and slightly evil-ly) hope that they never release the game on Steam.

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Please no. Not all Steam users are toxic players!

That being said i agree that Steam forums would require some harder moderation :+1:

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Honestly, i do hope that the game is released on as many storefronts as possible as I want it to be hugely successful. I suspect that a lot of the people on Steam who are the most vitriolic secretly bought it on Epic anyway.

I still don’t get why “having it all in one place” is an argument for a Steam release though. It is in one place - inside Hitman 3. When IOI fixes the Hitman 2 thing for PCs, it will truly be a one stop shop for Hitman. I don’t even have Hitman 2016 and Hitman 2 installed anymore so I wouldn’t care what storefront they were bought on.

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Well most of Steam users have all their games in that platform and don’t want to split their games into multiple launchers. Simple as that!

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Do you open steam and then find your game and then run it from there? I just click an icon for the game on my desktop. I never have to know what storefront it was purchased from. If the former, then I suppose you may want Hitman and your other games all in the same storefront, but I rarely hear anyone talking about wanting Hitman “and their other non-Hitman games” in the same place. They’re usually referring to just Hitman 1, 2, and 3 as if those three, specifically, and individually, all need to be run often. I may never run Hitman 1 and 2 again at this point so I don’t care if they were purchased on Steam or at Best Buy.

Yeah a lot of people want all their games in one place. I think there’s some danger in that, putting all your eggs in one basket that might shut down or ban you, but I guess the chance of either with Steam is extremely small. Still… I don’t think Epic or Battle.net are going anywhere, and it’s never really been feasible to have every PC game on Steam anyway. It is what it is.

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Not in my experience but maybe I’m just used to the nature of the Steam forums.
It’s not always bad there and I even made some friends just by discussing in there.
Like Dribbleondo said, the forums can be much better if they have good moderation.

Still, Epic turning third-party games into (temporarily) exclusives to one store/launcher is controversial and it’s bound to rile up Steam users in particular since well, they’re not getting their anticipated game on their preferred launcher.

I don’t think it’s fair to judge an entire community based on the most vocal part of the community that happens to be either whiny or argumentative, let alone excluding the game from them.
The majority of the userbase are quiet and likely apathetic regarding EGS exclusivity.

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I agree there’s a risk. However the owner of Steam told us that we’ll be able to access the games if something that bad happens. Also, you can still access your games even if you get banned from the platform fortunately :sweat_smile:

Having multiple launchers is a terrible mess in my opinion and confusing in terms of organisation. I don’t play on EPIC or Battle.net, the only exception is Uplay but only because it is linked to some of my Steam games or developer exclusivities (Ubisoft Games).

Also it’s a matter of preferences: i’m playing on Steam since years, and i’m not willing to switch to another platform. Just like some people prefer BMW to Audi and are good keeping up with the same brand.

Not only that, but making a game exclusive to one retailer/platform is like forcing you to buy the product on a specified place when you have your habits, which is something that refrains me of purchasing :grimacing:

That being said, everybody has its own opinions, tastes about that (which i respect), and nothing says that in a near future a better system will be created (something like GOG Launcher) which would make me want to try something else than Steam that i’m using since almost a decade now :+1:

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To me they’re just stores, not “platforms” at all really, but I know some use them as social hubs and whatnot. So yes I understand some feel the way you do about wanting everything in one place. Just saying there are downsides and it’s not really possible anyway without ignoring a lot of games, fair or not. That’s what I mean by “is what it is.”

Also there are definitely Steam bans that take your library away, I’ve read about them. You have to be a REALLY heinous person to get one though, like repeating racial slurs all over the community and stuff like that.

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I agree. To me, Steam isn’t a “platform”, it’s a store. The PC is the platform. I don’t play games “on steam”, I play them on a PC. I buy them from Steam. Steam may be the engine that handles updates, achievements, or whatever else it does, but I don’t feel like I use Steam to play the actual game. That may be technically untrue in the background (Steam has to be running to play the games bought through it, I mean) but I don’t use (knowingly at least) any of the Steam features while playing the actual game. I’ve never used that over-lay thing, don’t play any multiplayer stuff and the only person on my friends list is my wife.

For me at least, having all my games “in one place” means they’re all on my PC, not that I bought them all from the same store.

Also, just in case it wasn’t obvious, I don’t really want Hitman 3 to never release on Steam. It should release in as many stores as possible.

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This, so much. I remember back in the 00’s when playing through Steam became a requirement for Half Life 2 etc. It was not popular amongst the PC gamers of the time. Now it seems people love to be playing through a glorified storefront.

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I remember how big a deal it was to get a game digitally at first. Players were very concerned about not having the physical disk. What if you had to reinstall it? What if you lost the email that had your proof of purchase? How much bandwidth would downloading take? Will this work over dial-up?

People didn’t trust the digital downloads at first. I still have a stack of CD-ROMs laying around somewhere with games on them that aren’t even possible to download at this point. Storefronts like Steam, Epic, GOG, etc. seem to really want to be more depended on than they should be - hence the seemingly revised definition of “platform”. Some people actually see Steam as a platform to play a game on.

Steam was a huge PITA everyone hated when Half Life 2 launched. It’s amazing how fast they turned it into something people actually preferred only a few years later. I remember when Dragon Age came out it was DRM free on disc and people in the Broware forum were mad it didn’t have Steam DRM, which baffled me at the time.

Now I get that some people use Steam as a social hub, so it makes a lot more sense. I just do not at all do that, to me it’s just a store that forces me to keep it open in the system tray while I play. This is even more true of Hitman, which is an online client of its own that IOI manages themselves.

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