But why keep two versions of him who are exactly the same in the competition?Isn’t the Codename 47 version already enough?
You also have to kill all the guards in that level. Did we include all the guards in the final level of H2SA? If so then I would include the requiem guards in this one for consistency.
Nope, those weren’t included in the contest
I know this target isn’t mandatory to finish the mission, but what about the female assassin in “You Better Watch Out…”? She appears in the loading screen of the mission under the name of “?”.
She should definitely be included, even if she´s optional, because she gets marked as a target once she exposes herself. Plus, 2 of the 3 mafia bosses in Flatline are also not mandatory.
Ok, I gotta say I´m at odds here whether these guys should be included individually or collectively as “The Gator Gang”. Because frankly, even though they all look different and are in different places/situations, I have no idea which one is which and have always perceived them in the same way as I do the Blue Lotus members in C47/CON. They´re just too similar to each other without any personality traits to distinguish them (not to mention it would take less time to vote them out lol). Perhaps we should vote on how to include them?
Same… Cayne should definitely be included separately, since he´s the main baddie and de facto THE target of the mission, but everybody else is technically mandatory collateral. Rick could possibly be included separately since we see enough of him throughout the game to know about his personality, but the priest and guards (and most likely Rick) should be included together as “Funeral Attendees” (I advocate for all of them to be included because - unlike Sergei´s guys in H2SA - they are actually marked in-game as targets).
Andrei Puscus [20]
Winston Beldingford [30]
Alistair Beldingford [30]
Klaas Teller [3] -2
Rutgert Van Leuven [24]
Boris Ivanovich Deruzhka [30]
Franz Fuchs [17]
Fritz Fuchs [27]
Red Dragon Negotiator(SaD) [30] +1
Hong Kong Chief of Police [27]
Lee Hong [31]
I agree with @IlikeHitman that the CON version of Franz is vastly inferior to the C47 one (I mean, no “You have 10 zeconds, mein freund”?), as is the whole mission (lol), and I do like @Yacob ´s reasoning about Teller being more interesting because of being basically an innocent target, but unlike venturing to the basement to kill Teller, killing Franz in the shower just never felt tedious to me…
So it has come to this, the boring Romanian guy is going through. Funny for all this forum’s love of talking about wanting "innocent targets we are getting rid of one of the few innocent targets in the series.
Andrei Puscus [20]
Winston Beldingford [30]
Alistair Beldingford [30]
Klaas Teller [1] -2
Rutgert Van Leuven [24]
Boris Ivanovich Deruzhka [30]
Franz Fuchs [18] +1
Fritz Fuchs [27]
Red Dragon Negotiator(SaD) [30]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [27]
Lee Hong [31]
The good old boys really should be one homogenous group. That is effectively what they are. Also while I personally would just not do with her you are forgetting “?” from You Better Watch Out…
Dude you’re 100% correct, but a lot of the people who argue (or have previously argued) for more innocent targets are actively voting against Mr Teller. He’s one of the few innocent targets and way more interesting than the priest or reporter.
NOW IS THE TIME TO CHANGE COURSE! There is still time to save ourselves from taking this horrendous misstep. + 1 for Klaas and -2 for Andrei NOW!!!
I may have been a televangelist in a previous life, but you can’t blame me for trying
Again I would like to reiterate I hate the idea of innocent targets, always have and I will go to grave hating the idea. I just pointed out the irony.
Dude Franz was never not gonna make it to the next round. He’s also not likely to win it all, I would have happily supported him in the next round he appears in if you had supported Klaas. Maybe I’m not playing enough politics. Have I misread the room? I got Hannelore from a sure fire elimination to being saved with just one post. Hubris can ruin us all I suppose. It’s just a shame it strikes when the cause is correct.
Andrei Puscus [20]
Winston Beldingford [29]-1
Alistair Beldingford [29]-1
Klaas Teller [2] +1
Rutgert Van Leuven [24]
Boris Ivanovich Deruzhka [30]
Franz Fuchs [18]
Fritz Fuchs [27]
Red Dragon Negotiator(SaD) [30]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [27]
Lee Hong [31]
Sorry beldingfords, it’s just that you have enough points to survive
Even though I like Klaas Teller,he doesn’t have any chance to surivive,so…
Andrei Puscus [20]
Winston Beldingford [29]
Alistair Beldingford [29]
Klaas Teller [0]-2
Rutgert Van Leuven [25]+1
Boris Ivanovich Deruzhka [30]
Franz Fuchs [18]
Fritz Fuchs [27]
Red Dragon Negotiator(SaD) [30]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [27]
Lee Hong [31]
I have an excellent proposition: how about we call the Gator gang members by what they are known for in the mission
Engine Room Guy
Kissing Guy
Shotgun Door Guy
Bathroom Guy
…and so on
Jokes aside, they definitely shouldn’t be named since there is no way to know which is which as the game only provides you with a list of their names, not who they correspond to. What the wiki did was just randomly assign names to each member with no guarantee it’s the right one.
Andrei Puscus [20]
Winston Beldingford [29]
Alistair Beldingford [29]
Rutgert Van Leuven [25]
Boris Ivanovich Deruzhka [30]
Franz Fuchs [16] -2
Fritz Fuchs [27]
Red Dragon Negotiator(SaD) [30]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [27]
Lee Hong [32] +1
There was no need for that, this round is over.
But your behaviour has been noted.
If we keep them all separate than I like your idea of naming them by location. We could also list them as 1 sorta like the blue lotus triad members, and then unlike the blue lotus triad members, they might have a chance of advancing all together
Sure, but C47 Franz is not in this particular heat so I don’t see the relevance of this comparison at this stage. Contracts Franz should be weighed against his Contracts competition right now, and he towers over it like a Putty Monster after Rita threw her magnifying bomb at it.
Also, this is an acurate reprsentation of my face when I see Franz being downvote, so thanks for that