"Killer Shot" in Himmelstein - what am I missing? (Also, are the other maps better?)

Hitman: World of Assassination
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Not sure if this is the correct place, but there is no Himmelstein subforum so I thought I’d just ask here.

[prologue]

After completing almost everything else I finally tried the Sniper Assassin maps - I remember playing Himmelstein when it was a pre-order bonus or something and remembered it so incredibly bad that I didn’t try any other sniper maps after that. Well, years have passed, lets give it another try.

[rant]

And wow, they are so, so bad. At least Himmelstein, don’t know aout the others. Not being able to save is, as we now feel more than ever with all the escalation content, the easiest way to ruin replayability and long-term fun. But having a strict time line and having to just sit there, stare at the screen, not doing anything for up to 12 or 13 minutes until you get one tiny time window to do something and if you fail or if you want to do other challenges, do it again without saving or dofferent starting points - how did this pass QA?! I have now done most challenges, maybe 5 left, and I have actively “played” maybe 20 minutes while at the same time I had to sit and wait for over 5 hours now, doing nothing, scrolling through memes on my phone, waiting and waiting and waiting. Jesus Christ iO, seriously? And you decided to even make more of those? -.-

[question]

So, Killer Shot. Kill the two guys with the speaker. All guides that I can find show (a) the same solution and (b) a few comments about how this does not work (anymore?). Shoot the flag trigger, shoot the lamp. Then w a i t for the next 12 minutes without shooting anything to not break scripts or something, I hate this so much fckn christ, but when they finally meet they just shake hands, talk shortly and then they do not go outside but head directly to the meeting point underneath the big chandelier.

Am I missing something?

I even tried following the bride’s father around in case some scripts only get triggered if you watch closely. He ist walking around, doing marriage stuff GOD I HATE THIS LEVEL SO MUCH 12 MORE MINUTES AGAIN talking in the labyrinth, going to the photo… nope. Here might be a problem, because the couple is already gone when he arrives, so no photo. So the timing is broken already.

[tl;dr]

Has anyone accomplished Killer Shot recently or is aware of the script breaking and how to fix that?

Oh, and also: Are the other two sniper maps the same perpetual hell of only watching, not playing for hours and hours if you want to get all challenges? Please tell me they are vastly different and Himmelstein is only so bad because it wasn’t originall meant for the game :confused:

Thank you!

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Hantu Port had some really annoying challenges as well and I wasn’t even able to unlock one of them(which required all the targets to meet in one place in a similar manner) to get the trophy. :grimacing:

On the other hand,Siberia didn’t have any challenges like this from what I remember and is even considered by most the best sniper map(even though I personally prefer Himmelstein if we don’t take into consideration its annoying challenges).

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Interestingly, it worked after the fourth time… Two times it didn’t, then I posted. I had it running in the background, still the tiing was off. Tried it again just now and it worked :confused:

Weird, but thank you!

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After a lot of trial and error I finally did the challenge today on 18 Sep. 2024.
Since no one actually explains what has to happen for the two of them to meet up on the balcony under the speaker, here is my explanation:

For the Challenge to work, Dorian Lang needs to be the one to take the bride and grooms photo, so he can later show it to Guillaume Maison when they meet up in the art gallery.

  1. Start the Level.
  2. Shoot the photographers floodlight
  3. Shoot the flagpole.
  4. Wait until Dorian Lang and Doris Lee meet in the labyrinth. The bride and groom should be coming out of the mansion a few seconds from now. Shot in front of them to delay them ? over both their heads.
  5. Observe. Dorian Lang and the couple should meet up and Dorian Lang takes the wedding photo on his phone. Diana comments on it.
  6. You did it. Now simply wait for Dorian Lang and Guillaume Maison to meet in the art gallery and go to the balcony. Then shoot the speaker above them.

Explanation:
So, you enter the level and shoot the Photographers Light to create the opportunity for Dorian Lang to take the wedding photo instead of the photographer. You also shoot the flagpost to lure Dorian Lang to the labyrinth, so he so is near the photoshot when the bride and groom show up. Timing is everything here. In Hitman3 WoA the timing is off. Bride and groom arrive way to early for the photoshoot so they already left, when Dorian Lang gets there. The only thing you have to do to make this work is delay the bride and groom a bit so all three meet up at for the wedding photo at the same time. One or two shots in their vicinity is all you need to do. It slows them down by enough so Dorian Lang finds his way out of the labyrinth in time to meet up with them. Thanks to wampy283 on reddit for pointing this out.

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I despise the Sniper Assassin maps. Its fun to be stealthy… once. The rest is just a huge grind. All i have left to do is gain mastery yet I can’t face it. I’ve beaten all the challenges and yet will still have to do countless hours of grinding to get there.

I really hoped that IOI would see how stupid they are and make the XP requirement the total of the challenges plus a little more, but to this day it still hasn’t happened.

@Marchouette, maybe you’ll be the one to get it changed :wink:

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