TV Show Discussion Thread

ah, it’s ace. he’s such an interesting character.

pretty easy to dip into with tpbs, if you feel like it. there was a relatively recent kind-of-but-not-really hellblazer reboot with si spurrier at the helm that nailed john and had the perfect balance between horror and political satire. that’s a pretty good jumping on point. tragically, si’s run got cancelled, but it’s a complete arc that requires no prior knowledge.

ennis, delano and carey are all really good starting points, though the latter does require a little bit of back reading for the full impact. even so, it’s probably my favourite run.

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I’m not much into TV shows, but this one is gonna be interesting and must watch for sure

I like this TV series by the way

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I finally got around to We Own This City. It’s every bit the quality show you expect from David Simon. Sure, it’s familiar territory–Baltimore, cops, drugs, corruption–but the ground is so fertile.

The sexy part of the show is the (real life) corruption of the Gun Trace Task Force and Jon Bernthal is great as the brash, thoroughly repugnant leader of the unit, Wayne Jenkins. (Spoiler alert: He’s serving 25 years in federal prison.) They steal money, drugs, plant evidence and falsify their reports and it’s all the more frustrating to watch because it’s based on true events.

But the real depth of the show comes through Nicole Steele (brilliantly played by Wunmi Mosaku), a DoJ civil rights lawyer who is sent to Baltimore to draft a consent decree. Against the backdrop of the Freddie Gray protests, she interviews cops, victims, lawyers, bureaucrats, activists and politicians, asking the hard, often philosophical, questions about policing, race and the war on drugs. She’s calm and professional on the surface, but underneath you can sense the depths of her frustration.

It’s a fantastic spiritual successor to The Wire.

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And they actually got the actors to attempt Baltimore accents this time! Great show

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YEEEESSSSS!!
I thought this would be the kind of Netflix show to be dropped to little fanfare and quietly forgotten about, but I had no idea there was already a 2-season order in place! I’m so darn happy!

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Man, Quantum Leap was the first grown-up nerdy sci-fi show I got really into as a kid. So much of what I like today is rooted in that show. I really, really hope they don’t totally screw this up. :crossed_fingers:

https://youtu.be/G3I0SpwjVK8

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then they screwed it up

the last episode of og quantum leap still haunts me to this day.

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House of the Dragon is worthy successor to Game of Thrones so far. Depicting the apex of Targaryen power over the Seven Kingdoms and the war of succession that marked the beginning of their decline, it was actually the potential spin off I was looking forward the least. I can’t remember my internal reasoning at the time (maybe that some of the other stories were more interesting or less known?) but it has acquited itself well.

It evokes what GOT started as and shows the strength of the source material when adapted well. Quick aside, I see GOT as having two distinct epochs which can go at least some way to explaining what happened with the ending; “The Adaptation” of seasons 1-4 and “The Original Series” of seasons 5-8. The height of GOT’s power was when Benioff and Weiss had five thousand page novels at their disposal. After they had exhausted most of that information, they had to rely more and more on just making shit up. I have no doubt that the ending is more or less what GRRM intended but I am equally sure that he will handle it better (should he ever decide to finish “A Song of Ice and Fire”). All this to say that all of the pertinent information regarding the Dance of the Dragons is complete; HOTD is unlikely to worry about passing the novels.

THAT said, this show is based on a faux history book, not a novel series. The series should provide far more accessible to those, unlike me, who aren’t big history buffs and found the original text a bit cumbersome. And the history buffs, like me, should be able to enjoy the characters come to life and tell their stories themselves, rather than just a bunch of historian type characters speculating.

Anyway, it’s been great fun so far; Matt Smith is a standout but the rest of the cast is also very good, the production as high quality as its predecessor and Ramin Djawadi is always great to listen to. The only real knock I have against it is that it can be a bit hard to keep up at times; like its predecessor, its first season is prolonged setup, but unlike its predecessor, it takes place over decades. The main conflict itself only lasted a couple years but it was decades in the making so I appreciate the commitment to the context. I just have to get in the mindset of jumps of months or years between episodes.

To wrap everything up (apologies for the novel length review :sweat_smile:), it really does seem to be benefiting from having its source material finished. It knows the beginning, middle and end well enough that it can also provide an extended, and necessary, prologue (and, possibly, an appropriate length epilogue of sorts). I also really like that its dipping into more of the lore from the books. Though, according to the in universe histories, nobody knows what exactly inspired Aegon the Conqueror to begin his conquest, and the dreams in question sound more like those of Prince Rhaegar some 300 years later, I applaud them referencing the song of ice and fire and the prophetic dreams that run in members of House Targaryen. More than that, though, I was probably way more excited than I should have been when they not only explicitly mentioned the Rhoynar but also restored that part of the official title of the monarch. I guess, long story short, I just love how much more detailed it is than Game of Thrones. Although, I’m struggling to see how this results in massive bloodshed; everyone gets along SO well!

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Seeing this makes me feel better about not yet watching Season 3. I was worried a renewal was still up in the air. I’ll get to it when I get in the right mood.
I’ve heard… kind of divisive things about the season? You either like it or you don’t, and a lot of that has to do with the fact the plot structure is the same “race against the clock vs. apocalypse event” the other seasons have had. I’m sure I’ll still enjoy it

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I enjoyed it…but I knew that criticism going in. And I’ve always enjoyed the characters and the way they interact more than the particulars of whatever absurd apocalypse they’re meant to be stopping anyway.

Four seasons seems about right, though.

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I’ve discovered the show Taskmaster from the U.K. It’s great!

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keep an eye out for james acaster. the man’s a treasure!

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Just watched the first episode of what’s an undoubtedly insanely good series.
It’s called “The Rehearsal” and its a cross between a Documentary, a scripted comedy series, and a reality TV show.

On a macro summary level, here’s whats cool about it, if you’ve never seen it before:

It’s headed by Nathan Fielder on HBO, and the show follows Fielder as he helps random american people overcome challenging social situations by giving them the most authentic rehearsal for it possible!
It’s an amazing production involving hiring lookalike actors, building detailed accurate sets, and performing tons of research on the “players” needed for it.

The show opens with Nathan meeting his latest client, a man named Kor.
But what Kor doesn’t know is that Nathan himself has prepared for this situation. After the show initially got in contact with Kor, they hired a lookalike actor to mimic his speech patterns and mannerisms based on a tape, and re-created his entire apartment through 3D mapping, disguised as a maintenance check-up a week prior.

So Nathan has already gone through as many permutations of the situation possible – what jokes to say, when he’ll say it, how Kor might react to it all – and the rest of the show is similar to this, but flipped to fit Kor’s situation. He has to come clean about a lie he’s held to a friend for over a decade, and is worried she’ll react poorly, endangering their friendship.
But with the help of Nathan and his amazing flowchart skills, he’ll be able to rehearse how the conversation will go in a re-creation of the environment, thanks to some sweet HBO set-design budget.

It is a jaw-dropping production and I reccomend you seek it out if you like heartwarming stuff or the theatrical arts in general. Go watch The Rehearsal

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Finally watched Sandman.
It is good. I knew it was faithful. I didn’t know that it was that faithful.
Second arc is a bit more meh for me. But with great highlights.
I appreciated the tempo : they managed to bring two one shots in between the two arcs.
And they did my man Hob proper.

As for Constantine, @Screaming_Meat, sure they didn’t went with the full background and motivation of the character, but it felt less like a miss and more of a “we don’t want to info dump everything at once and derail the episode, Constantine will be showed to be dangerously reckless later”. And it was in a dream, unreliable and all. Still a bastard.

Also Chas name drop, and happy to see Ric the vic.

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yeah, it was only a little change but an important one, personally. i think it was less about dumping info (because they added an extra character) and more about making her more sympathetic. it was fine. she’s pretty dang good imo.

yes! obvs not from hellblazer, but i was just happy to see hettie on screen :smile:

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We passed the halfway point of the first season last week and it was the best episode yet. (I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, people in Westeros should just stop having weddings.) It’s been a fairly strong run so far. Things are definitely heating up and I look forward to the next episodes. I know it’s inevitable when get spin-offs and prequels and sequels, but some people need to let it stand on its own. There are moments it tops GOT and others where it falls short but, like The Legend of Korra versus Avatar: The Last Airbender, I’ve found that they each tend to different things pretty well despite the similarities and sharing a universe. There are similarities but, for the most part, there’re telling different stories in different ways; once you get past the shared universe, there really isn’t a comparison.

Now, we’re on to the show’s biggest challenge yet: a time jump so large, it forces two major recastings. I spoke before about how much context the show is trying to cover and that spanned decades; well, it’s caused a handful of recastings through five weeks. However, those were relatively minor characters with minor roles compared to the two characters aging up now. The two women at the heart of the conflict, previously played by actresses in their late teens/early twenties will now be played by actresses in their late twenties/early thirties. This had been advertised for quite some time so it’s not a surprise I just sometimes wonder if they could have cast two actresses in their mid twenties from the beginning to balance the difference and play slightly younger to start and slightly older to end. :man_shrugging: I’m cautiously optimistic (and the previews look promising) at any rate and we are nearing the war’s start so time jumps and recastings should more or less be a thing of the past and it should all be fire and blood smooth sailing from here.

(Quick aside: I caught a glimpse of my OP when quoting and holy fuck! I don’t know what I was on when I wrote it, but I’ve never seen so many typos in my life!)

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Anyone see any of Andor yet? I’ll probably post my thoughts in the StarWars thread but I didn’t even realise it came out while I was on vacation. Super pumped for it. Watching the Bears find a way to lose this game and then I’m turning it on! I have been waiting for this for a while!!!

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I’ve enjoyed Andor so far. The first two episodes are rather slow but the third makes up for it. I personally can’t wait for the fourth. It does help that we’ve got another nine episodes to look forward to.

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I just finished the first 3. I can see why they released 3 to start. It’s slow; I think it’s good. But people have short attention spans, so they needed to give us episode 3 for some excitement. I’m also looking forward to more.

The first Last of Us TV Series teaser is out!

https://youtu.be/rBRRDpQ0yc0

The production looks pretty massive, glad to see HBO has put in the budget for it! Looking like there’s stuff from the game, from the Left Behind DLC, and a few new things too?

The teaser doesn’t reveal too much about the story itself so it might be a while before we get a full trailer. I’m expecting it’ll probably be out April-ish next year?
I just wanna hear Pedro Pascal do his Texan accent, man.

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