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You’re right, that is a garbage article.

It brings back memories though; I wish I could experience that twist for the first time again. I go back to Bioshock every few years almost just on the atmosphere alone (often at the expense of the sequels, but I’m sure I’ll play them one day :sweat_smile:). I did just finish one of those runs recently, however, but it has been a few years since I played Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice. I absolutely loved that game’s atmosphere the first time through and I’ve been meaning to see for awhile if it’ll hold up for me anywhere near as well as Bioshock has.

Maybe it’s time for another run? :thinking:

Everything is a waste of lives. The fact that they’re finite is in-and-of-itself a waste.

It doesn’t matter in the end, either way. That’s always the problem I’ve had with every bit of advice I’ve ever heard on how to best live one’s life: they never account for how, when you get down to it, the end result is the exact same no matter what you do. Whether you spend every day of your life fully active and doing positive, fulfilling things, or sitting in a chair day after day, doing nothing but fulfilling your body’s functional needs and nothing else, the result is the same: you die, people mourn, then they die and nobody is left who remembers or cares about you. And since the human race will inevitably go extinct, there will come a point where there will be nobody remember anything, and so it won’t matter what anybody ever did on this planet. That’s the shitty paradox of existence; the fact that it’s all only temporary is what robs it of any real reason to do anything with it.

that’s not a paradox.

also, the fact life is temporary is what gives it value.

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No, that’s what takes value away, because there’s nothing that takes place in that temporary period of time that can change that outcome. If there is only one ultimate consequence to any and all actions undertaken during a lifespan, that span cannot have value.

“I am sorry Mr Johnson but the inevitable confrontation with my own mortality and limited time on Earth ate my homework.”

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To be clear, I don’t think life’s meaninglessness is an excuse for particular kinds of behavior. I simply point to it as an example of how we are not actually required to do anything, and should not overly concern ourselves with having to live life a certain way; the result is the same no matter what path you choose, so don’t worry too much about which path you take.

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the value here doesn’t come from being able to change the outcome though because you can’t. it’s a fixed point. focusing on that’s a denial of reality and a waste of the limited available time.

the fact that you can’t ride bumper cars forever doesn’t make all the bumping meaningless. quite the opposite. the value of the experience is increased because of the limitations placed on it. we have a scant amount of time where we can do anything before we won’t be able to do anything ever again. that scarcity (of sorts) is what makes the time valuable.

i take it you never got around to reading this?

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I think every person thinks that, I had to have one of the English teacher’s mind me when I was doing my English homework because whenever I tried to write what I wanted to write it was usually way off base. Even in Uni I struggled making my assignment topics match my means.

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i loved it whenever i got to choose the subject of assignments. that was pure joy.

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You would think but then you spend five hours looking for a source that corroborates the links between the CIA, United Fruit and the staging of coups in South America and how it impacted the plot of A Hundred Years of Solitude. Or definitively proving that the Latin America boom was the birth of Middle Class America’s obsession over literature involving the minorities they screw over.

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I know that many teachers justify homework by saying that the students have to take responsibility for it. They have to manage their time, organize themselves, it encourages self-reliance and so on.

I personally reject the idea of ​​homework and wouldn’t gove it to my students. You can teach all these things at school without depriving the children of their free time.

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We are expected to learn so much at school that imprinting the learned stuff does not fit into the time anymore. That is what homework is for.
I just did not do them at some point mostly but I think if you struggle to understand the school topics you probably should do them, at least the topics that are hard for you.

Not that I did that though. :joy:

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That’s the thing; the fact that you can’t change the outcome, that it’s a fixed point, is precisely why all things done with the available time is a waste, because nothing done with that time has any true consequence. If the time provided in a temporary existence for all things cannot be used to change it from being temporary, even just potentially, then it doesn’t matter, nor can it, what actually is done with that time, because nothing of relevance is changed. When you take into consideration all the things that humanity, both collectively and individually have done since coming into existence, and consider that in all that time the continuous cycle of coming into existence and then ceasing to exist has not changed or been altered in any way, for us or any other thing that exists, then we haven’t actually accomplished anything at all. The same story, the same cycle, has for all intents and purposes continued in all that time, reducing every life that existed in that time as a waste, because nothing of any consequence was achieved.

I know how this is coming across and feel free to ignore me, I’m fiercely depressed as I’m operating on no sleep and my dog has vomited 11 times in the past 8 hours with no clear sign of what’s wrong with her, as we are only 3 weeks out from the 1 year anniversary of my previous dog being put down due to illness, so my mind is in a dark place right now.

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you didn’t quote the important part.

i don’t want to derail the thread further either. when you’re in a better frame of mind, i’m happy to carry this over to dms, if you fancy.

suffice it to say, nihilism is pointless.

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say what you will about the tenets of national socialism…

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In all fairness, Heisenberg is not nihilist. He gives and hold value to some things, and will defend them.
So in act he’s either an existentialist, or a solipsist. Mostly the second on the forum.

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well, whether he’s a strict nihilist or not (i don’t think that’s really possible tbh), when someone says:

that’s a greatest hit from nwa’s lost album: “straight outta nihilism”.

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And yet, unless you believe in an afterlife, still true to this day.

Gonna abandon the discussion now, my dog’s gonna be fine and all the endorphins of relief are rushing back in now. I need sleep.

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Since spooky season’s right around the corner, I thought I’d just say that The Nightmare Before Christmas is one of the … movies about Halloween (and/or Christmas).

I confess that I’d only seen it for the first time within the last year or so so I can’t be sure if it’s one of those things that’s hard carried by nostalgia or if it’s something I would have absolutely loved as a kid only to realize as an adult that my prepubescent smooth brain should never have been allowed to make decisions. Anyway, the movie is… uh… fine? I guess. There’s some good songs and the animation was good but mostly things just sort of happened and I found myself wondering why I cared. :man_shrugging:

Maybe it’s simply just because I don’t identify with Jack’s central dilemma? To me, Halloween is the superior holiday.

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