This part of a review of the entire series pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.
(30:20-32:28)
It’s trying to be serious while having basically cartoon characters as the antagonists.
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Which machine in Mendoza was more gruesome?
- Grape Crusher
- Grape Presser
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I honestly can’t decide.
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isn’t a plot a sequence of events?
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Seen it. Don’t agree. Still don’t see why everyone thinks they plot is bad. Thinking most folks are taking their general dislike of Absolution and applying it to something that had little to do with most of the reasons people give for not liking it.
Yeah, it is. The sequence of events is 47 trying to track down Victoria and being hindered by people he needs to kill every step of the way. The fact that those people are cartoonish caricatures that many find offensive don’t change that, just how people feel about going along with it. A lot of whether someone likes or dislikes Absolution comes down to personal taste and standards, but the plot isn’t beholden to subjectivity, and is one that has been seen many times and is not inherently problematic. It’s essentially Hitman meets Taken. Taken just had better, more believable characters.
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Which is why its one of the best comedy games ever, this perfect juxtaposition is inherentily comedic
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Devil’s advocate but 47 is a veteran assassin, chances are he knows how to shoot someone where they can appear to have been fatally hit yet be able to hold out long enough to get medical help.
I feel like this really undersells the problem how Absolution handles sex. There is nothing wrong with having sexual themes but Absolution implements them so poorly while also calling the very notion of it out. Very much wanting to have cake and eating it overall.
Rescue plots typically tend to work when we are given a reason to care about the protected party. The story and plot do a poor job telling us why we should care about Victoria since Victoria never gets shown as a character. Also I feel like having two antagonistic forces (plus Birdo) is completely unmecessary.
There is a huge difference though. When 47 is dressed as a flamingo IO know what the joke should be. The dapper and professional assassin is wearing a gaudy, goofy flamingo costume is still acting like a professional. Same goes with the dancing 47 gags as well.
47 exiting a level by flying? Absurdist humour and an Easter egg that isn’t canon unless you think it is really funny that it actually happened in canon.
Absolution’s funny moments fall flat because they are inane and amount to nothing more than bad sex jokes, throwaway lines or “witty” one liners while hoping the exaggerated caricatures carry them along or that you are still 12 and think the word fuck automatically elicits laughter. Sadly the game is taking itself seriously for it to actually work. It is like if Death Wish* was directed by Marvel Studios. It makes it fall flat on its face every time.
You Absolution defenders say this every damn time it comes up! Sanchez is 300 pounds and stands six feet even while sitting hunched over, even the stupidest person on Earth wouldn’t think piano wire is going to kill him in two seconds. The whole point of 47 is that even close personal assignments are still jobs to be done and to be done well.
Saying that he was distracted by the personal nature of the mission not only misses the point of his character before the game but also the very first mission where him “killing” Diana never once causes him to mess up. 47 acknowledging once then never doing it again at all is like when Deadpool mentions a comic trope but they still play the trope straight. You don’t negate shonky writing by pointing it out, I would rather you ignore it than point it out because that is how you invite criticism.
47 is IO’s intellectual property. No wonder they wanted to kill Dexter so badly, he was going to violate their patent rights.
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Ok, you know what? That makes sense. I’ll give you that one.
That one also makes sense. I’ll give you that one, too.
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There’s a reason for that: because it is valid.
It was all 47 had to work with at that moment. Sanchez wasn’t able to throw 47 off and through a door and knock him unconscious because of his size and weight, but because he was stronger than even a normal man of that same size would be, just like 47 himself. 47 didn’t know he was about to garrote a failed super soldier experiment; he thought it was just more big dumb muscle that he’s dealt with many times. And when a garrote is around your neck, you tend to flail ineffectively and not focus on tactics, since it’s not just cutting off your oxygen but the supply of blood to your brain. If Sanchez had just had natural gigantism and hadn’t been an enhanced human, that event wouldn’t have happened. 47 would have choked him out, and Dexter was being such a loudmouth in the next room that he probably wouldn’t have even heard the struggle.
47 was genuinely questioning his actions and his future throughout the game and was making decisions on the fly without proper intel for something that he would normally have a whole dossier for. If he hadn’t been pressed for time to get info quickly for Victoria’s sake, he probably would have scoped the place and learned more about who Dexter had with him before making a move. He wasn’t expecting a behemoth like Sanchez and was already there and committed by the time he saw him; Birdie’s head’s up to him about Sanchez didn’t really cover what he needed to know. The only reason he even tried to take Sanchez after he saw him was because he had decided to kill Dexter and Layla because he’d heard them say too much about Victoria, and once he saw that Dexter’s big bodyguard was right next door, he knew he’d have to deal with him first, because he wouldn’t be able to contend with such a man, even a normal one, bursting into the room while he was in the middle of dealing with two targets. He may not have even been trying to kill Sanchez, just choke him unconscious and using his sleeper hold or hitting him in the head clearly wouldn’t be as effective on a giant.
Absolution defenders. I see that line way to much and there is a certain point where it feels like saying it misses why people hate that scene. It goes against the core of 47’s character from before the game and after that one instance the personal nature of the mission never gets to 47 again even on a smaller level. It was like the plot needed 47 to fuck up so that the rest of the plot could happen, Ebert called it an idiot plot.
The bottom line is even if 47 didn’t know Sanchez was a super soldier (which is super stupid) he was still a tall, heavy and muscly person. 47 should have still on some level though that he was unnatural and that it would be tough to garotte him or that he should sneak around him or distract him or shoot him even if he was desperate. The mission being personal shouldn’t even have been a factor, it couldn’t possibly have impacted his decision making that badly.
Again this is like discussing Grey’s death, I am not talking about events I don’t care about that. I am talking about why the scene exists and how it impacts the story. On that level I have to say that the scene is contradictory to 47’s character in the other games, it has no real impact on 47’s character since he never makes a mistake like that again and the only reason that scene exists is so Dexter can meet 47 which can be done in so many other ways.
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that’s more of an overview, i think.
why is that?
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Do you think 47 has a single twin size bed?
- Yes
- No, he has some sort of full size bed (double, queen, king etc)
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It’s an interesting question, because it’s just not a question of comfort. But rather a larger look into what makes 47 tick. 47 is practical, I think he would sleep on whatever is convenient and even the floor. 47 isn’t statuary and I don’t see him being tied down by a place. The closest we come to a place 47 choose to stay for a long period of time was a monastery. Here he lived a very simple life as a groundskeeper. If 47 would settle down, I believe it would be in something simple.
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And then if you really want to go down the rabbit hole… does he have a full bed just in case people come over so he doesn’t look like a weirdo and raise suspicion slash bring attention to himself? Or does that not matter bc he would never have anyone over ever*?
- what if a thunderstorm causes a tree to fall into his house? Surely then he has contractors (the kind with tool belts) come and fix it.
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Well 47 doesn’t a place he calls home so I think it varies depending on which part of the world he’s working in.
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You should’ve tagged Bourbon for the real answer to this question.
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@Bourbon
I’m being told you have an accurate answer to the above question.
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Best/favourite Wolfenstein game?
- Wolfenstein 3D
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein
- Enemy Territory
- Wolfenstein (2009)
- The New Order
- The Old Blood
- The New Colossus
- Youngblood
- Blade of Agony
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Let’s review what we know about 47’s habits and background:
We know from the Bad Ending that his beds in the asylum were likely utilitarian singles meant for him to sleep on in between missions/training and I don’t see him changing from that style in C47. We don’t get much from the shed in SA but I also don’t imagine a Catholic church having much in the way of beds that would accommodate more than one person for obvious reasons.
But as time goes on, he starts making more and more money. He’s still flying coach at the end of Contracts so it’s not a huge amount but he’s several years out from his upbringing at this point so it’s reasonable to believe that he’d be able and perhaps willing to spend a bit on creature comforts.
Absolution sets him back again and we only see him on a dingy motel room bed so it’s hard to say for sure what his normal preferences are when he doesn’t actively want to kill himself. And who knows what kind of impression seeing how Diana lives made on him. But given the upgrades we see him with in the WOA trilogy, I think he starts experimenting with the finer things in life as part of the process of forgiving himself for shooting her.
What are these upgrades? Chronologically, we see him with his own backlit murder table in the Legacy cutscene, which isn’t cheap. We also see him experimenting with different clothes, tailored to fit him exactly, to the point where various NPC’s like Jackie Carrington openly hit on him. We also see him in his own private jet for the first time in Patient Zero. Also telling is that we no longer get clues about how much he gets paid per hit. I’ve said this before but I think that’s a sign that if we have to ask, we can’t afford him. He’s rich, like really rich. And whether you think he learned how to be a Michelin star-level chef purely to be able to blend in on missions, or whether you think he gets pleasure purely from the fine food he can make for himself, rare ingredients like fugu don’t come cheap.
But we also see him laying down in the opening to Hokkaido. He’s almost comically stiff and keeps to one side of the very large bed in his suite. As much as I want to say that he’s used to sleeping beside Diana (breathy sigh) I think he’s still used to sleeping in a twin, max.
So, in conclusion: if there’s a large bed in the Fuck Mansion, it raises legitimate questions about who put it there and why 
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Excellent! Thank you.
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