AMBROSE ISLAND, Andaman Sea (Mission #7) - Location Discussion

You just gotta join it when there’s free space (I think you can only do that from one side).

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I did a SA/SO just to see if I could work out how to do one. It was like the old days before challenges and all that jazz. I actually enjoyed working out how to do it very much, and have now worked out how to do it without bribing unlockable equipment into the mission. I recommend giving it a go.

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114.000 xp actually, since you start at level 1

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Did anyone else get super excited when they set up the proxy kill and heard the soon to be killer say “I’m gonna gun them down” ???
I got super stoked for it and I assumed it would happen in the room with the red sofa, but nope! It’s a push kill again.

I know it’s possible too. Just script one target pulling out a weapon and then the player (and the player only) hears/sees the weapon go off, but in game what actually happens is the target who was “shot” dies by a scripted accident fall. None of the NPCs will panic bc of the gunfire bc they didn’t actually see/hear it and then a guard will bag the body. Maybe script that when that target dies by that method in that room there is a specific line of dialogue the guards say to keep the usual “some sort of accident” from coming out. Put in a “don’t worry boss, I’ll get this cleaned up for you” or similar.

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Unfortunately it might just be foreshadowing (backshadowing?) for the themes of Isle of Sgail

With the addition of the new map in Hitman 3, what about the eventual speedrun categories?

  • Because older runs were done on the initial six maps of H3, do we keep this category?
  • New runs on H3 must include Ambrose Island? Or do we keep two separated categories (w/ and w/o Ambrose Island)?
  • Speedruns of the whole trilogy should include Ambrose Island now or not?

I don’t plan to do speedruns. It’s just for curiosity.

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Could very well be. But a man can dream :slight_smile:

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We know they can do this because Mendoza

I dont speedrun but i know they tend to keep vanilla categories even when DLC comes out. Hence the H2 standard and H2 plus DLC categories. Might be some contention because unlike H2 expansion this is free but its also a pacing thing. As for the adding it to the category thing, if theres an all level category itll definitely go there but i dont think theyll have it in the trilogy category because its technically not part of that campaign. They dont play the training either because that doesnt lead into the campaign in terms of menus or structure. They go from the start of Hitman 1’s campaign to the end of Hitman 3’s. Since ambrose isnt part of any of that it might just get skipped

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You and me both man. I feel like if IOI makes more they should definitely make them paid and not go down the asset reuse route. I liked the route, I appreciate this, I feel it was clever but it’d lose its charm if it was done multiple times. Having some new aesthetics with other maps that are set in gaps in the trilogy would be such a good hook for paid DLC. Thats a big what if tho

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In Mendoza don’t the NPCs go into panic though when they see Vidals dead body?

I was trying to figure out a way for the game to allow a firearm proxy kill that doesn’t result in losing SA and a bunch of NPCs running around terrified.

Nah they seem fine i think that room must activate specific scripting that prevents panics when it starts

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I don´t suppose you have an idea under what circumstances it took place, right? I was following him around and he doesn´t seem to say it during his regular loop, after inspecting the antenna or after meeting with Akka…

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Same, I also destroyed the satellite thing and he still didn’t changed his normal route.

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I don’t know, I heard it around the town, while he was walking towards his restaurant

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We must be talking about different things. I meant the proxy sniper kill. You have to remove the guards in order to not lose SA. They react rhe her as if she was actually shot.

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You don´t say? In my case he never said anything when walking towards there afaik… Will give it another go tomorrow. Are you sure it was Crest who said it?

Yeah, he only chats with the guard afterwards, crosses the bridge, comments on Piombo (which is funny) and goes back to his usual. I don´t think he even has a chat with Orson… (though they never really crossed paths in any of the cases when I got him there lol)

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You definitely don’t have to do that, I’ve done it numerous times without touching the guards.

I think he was talking about the proxy kill during the herald meeting though.

Would be funny to hear that since they have the same VA.

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I was misremembering. I just went back and played it. She goes flying into an out of bounds place but the guards will get suspicious of you after it happens AND you can keep SA so long as they don’t see you around.

^^ thats totally not how I remembered it :joy:. Why was I always removing those guards ?

Well this is what I wanted in Ambrose only without the body going flying off the map. I was hoping the one target would use a machine gun and just go to town on the other.

Made a video about the wallbang possibilities of the Molotov Cocktail unlock:

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Yeah, probably why they don´t bother :laughing: Still, would be interesting considering he´s his lieutenant and all.

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