CHONGQING, China (Mission #4) - Location Discussion

I tought Chongqing will be more Traditional like Mumbai and Hokkaido
Little disapointed map small street and not traditional like was in the old hitmans

The most of the map very boring and not feel china

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I think that was the idea: to show a version of China that shows it more up to date and less stereotypical.

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Its nice idea but i think they need to put some traditional style … and more alive city like in Karaoki put there 2 chinese civilian sing together and thr place more bigger could be nice.
Something in the map feel died to me lol

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I think if they will create side mission and will change few things and more npc like Garden Show but chinese style with some traditional it will be great but i doubt…
They said Year two new storyline and they need few missions to Freelancer project so crossfinger that they will make one :love_you_gesture::woozy_face:

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I think the best thing for you right now to feel ā€œchinaā€ and ā€œchinese musicā€
Its to take in the main start mission
ā€œMixtape 47ā€ in distraction menu near the coin
And turn it on in Chongqing street
The songs there are from
Kane & Lynch 2 in Mandarin
Good luck lol

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Yea i did it its nice
But they change the sound and now its in slow motion :expressionless:

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the map was really wonderful but feel dead to me, and very close and boring.
i wish for bigger city, and crowded like was in Hitman Absolution. with food stands and peoples around the street neon .

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I don’t mind the deadness of it, but what makes it boring for me is the lack of interesting kills. I wrote up a design brief for IO consisting of realistic fixes that would take a small amount of effort to implement; to make the experience of Chongqing better. But I don’t know what to do with it. I think subconsciously I wrote it for my own peace of mind haha maybe I’ll post it in here for everyone to ridicule and criticize :crazy_face:

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Do it, post it. I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks the kills in this mission (and in H3 in general, aside from Mendoza) don’t live up to the high standards set by H1/2 :sweat_smile:

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Ok I will soon. I’ve split it up into two segments - easily implement fixes and kills that would require a lot of time and effort to implement. I agree with H3 having the weakest kills, but my god, Chongqing deserved better.

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The Chongqing experience could be made better by doing two things: adding more people on the order of Mumbai, and ditching the whole ā€œdestroy the ICAā€ story. But, we don’t have time for rational solutions.

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Thankfully the ICA data hack is optional after completing the mission, I wish it would be optional for the subway station infiltration point too. I love starting off there even though it’s quite the trek.

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No, I don’t mean as a mission objective; I mean, I wish IOI had not made the decision that destroying the ICA would be part of the story. Chongqing should have been a place holding data for Providence that 47 needed to access, not the place where he turned his back on the career that we’ve been following him on for twenty goddamn years. I’m gonna be bitter toward IOI for that one for a long time.

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Ah, I see what you mean. Well as you said it has been twenty years. I’m not too bothered by the ICA coming to an end. Although I would have liked to know who the top dog is. Sure there are board members, but you go high enough you always come to one person. Might make for an interesting plotline for a future game.

I hate it. I liked that 47’s job wasn’t just taking money from some schmoe to go kill someone they didn’t like and get an envelope of money in exchange. It was a world service he and the ICA performed, assisting government agencies in taking down terrorists, dictators, oppressive regimes, things that governments don’t have the right to do, so they take up the ICA’s services. They had people who could gather intel and place strategic items anywhere. They could look up anybody, find anybody, go anywhere, get anyone. Whether it was a reclusive millionaire who wanted a negligent theme park owner taken out, a member of law enforcement who wanted a serial killer they couldn’t catch put away, or homeland security paying to have a doomsday cult leader scrubbed off; the ICA was there to help, doing bad, dirty work against those who used money and privilege to protect themselves when nobody else could or was willing to do that bad, dirty work themselves. They had all legal and political loopholes covered, had the resources to bribe witnesses and dispose of evidence and make law enforcement and politicians look the other way. The ICA is what made the Hitman experience seem plausible, as everything that shouldn’t have been so easy was made so by them, and 47 took care of the rest. They were a blend of The Conspiracy and Big Brother, but benign and neutral, interested in providing only the best of customer service, just for the shadowy trade of murder for hire.

And now it’s gone, and 47 is left having to take up open bounties and do the ground work of a new-hire temp on his own in Freelancer, like some common spy or private investigator who just so happens to kill his subjects. I do hope that, storywise, 47 and Diana are just using their earnings from Freelancer to build up funds and connections and establish a communications network to ultimately restore the ICA for future generations.

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I think it’s plausible that Diana would begin her own agency yeah. Although I absolutely love the idea of 47 going freelance. The thing I got sick of was that targets were always rotten people, whereas in reality a contract killer’s target could easily be a philanthropist. I’d like to see 47, who can now feel emotion, have to deal with assassinating those who don’t deserve it. It would be a nice way to reintroduce a darker-toned Hitman storyline too. The WOA Trilogy is wonderful but the secret agent vibes ain’t got shit on the likes of Contracts. This is of course an unlikely narrative as Diana is hellbent on going after those who are due their punishment. So I’m pipe-dreaming.

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For whatever it’s worth, I like that the ICA is gone. It always bugged me that 47, no matter how much agency he was given and no matter how much emphasis they put on Diana choosing which contracts they accepted, was an employee. He worked for the ICA.

His job as a hit man was impressive and he was clearly the best at what he did, but he was still an employee working for an organization. The character of 47, in my world, is better off on his own than being a cog in a machine.

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47 and Diana don’t just go after ā€œbadā€ people; the majority of the type of targets people pay to have killed, and the type of targets 47 and Diana prefer to hunt, just happen to be bad. Rather, they like to go after people who avoid consequences. Good or bad, people who use wealth and connections to hide from their enemies offend the two. We’ve seen it throughout the series and it’s quantified in WoA: they believe no one is untouchable, and they bring that truth to those who think they are. If a philanthropist pissed off the mob deliberately by doing something good that affected their business, and used their money to provide protection for themselves over it, 47 and Diana would likely have no problem going after that philanthropist.

47 has always felt emotions; he just feels them a little more commonly now, but he’s always had them. We see that at the beginning of H2:SA and throughout Contracts, he feels guilt. In Blood Money, he’s angry because he was almost recently killed by that gunshot in Contracts, and then by Diana literally stabbing him in the back. Absolution, he feels betrayal, then sorrow for Diana, and pity for Victoria. The thing is, he is able to completely disconnect from his emotions at will, and he always does so when on the job. He inherited that from Lee Hong. Before WoA threw new details into the mix like the whole serum thing, it was acknowledged that 47 inherited at least one of his basic skills from his five fathers; his ability to think of things others don’t from Ort-Meyer, his toughness from Pablo, his ability to disguise and blend in from Fuchs, his ability to sense that his enemies are close from Boris, and from Lee Hong, the Man With No Conscience, his ability to be ruthlessly without emotion. So it won’t matter, even now that his emotions are slightly more unlocked than before, if he kills an innocent person. He will turn his emotions off and won’t feel it, and if they were someone who thought themselves untouchable, he won’t have a problem with it.

Except, he wasn’t. None of the agents were. Diana and the handlers and analysts, maybe, and there was a certain expectation of loyalty, sure, but all the agents were free agents who simply accepted jobs from ICA. The agency brokered the contracts and passed them along to the available hitmen, but ultimately its like a talent agency; the actors do not represent the talent agency, it’s the other way around. ICA worked the same way. Absolution and WoA made it seem like there was greater emphasis on agents being actual employees, and maybe the work environment became more like that after they survived the Franchise, but 47 and all the others were never beholden to the ICA and could decline any work offered their way, because that’s what it was: offered work, not required work.

The point being that, since they brokered the contracts on an international scale, that’s what made the arrangement great. 47 got work from the CIA and MI6 and FSB and all of them, but they’re not going to go straight to 47 himself, or any other Hitman. You have to have a network to broker the deal, and that’s what was so cool about ICA. They were an independent organization that were a stepping stone for 47 to influence international affairs. Now, 47 and Diana don’t have that to rely on and must either go for open contracts that are put up on the dark web for any two-bit hired gun to try to collect, or hope that enough people know about them and how to contact them to try to come to them directly. That’s why Freelancer is presented the way it is, to show how they will have to do all this extra stuff without their usual vendor. It’s neat for a change of pace, and will likely be a lot of fun, but I do not want it to be the norm going forward. I want 47 getting his assignments from a larger agency, playing a part in a larger story, like James Bond’s relationship with MI6, or whoever that guy from Mission Impossible gets his self-destructing tapes from.

And that’s why even now, Chongqing really grinds my gears, because that’s where it was all lost.

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Very bad Chongqing noodle Mission not will be in the Freelancer
I just cant play End of an Era so boring
:disappointed_relieved::disappointed_relieved::disappointed_relieved:

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And that’s fine. It’s fine to want it not to be the way that it is. I’m still glad the agency is gone. I do not want 47 getting his assignments from a larger agency. Voluntary or not, he’s no different than an NSA or CIA agent in that case. It’s boring.