Except you’re wrong, the ICA Coins were applied to accounts when the GOTY Update was released and didn’t require a Paid DLC to obtain them since again the GOTY Update was a free update.
All things considered the coins and my personal belief behind them was they were gratuity from IO. Unless some post indicated that people would of received these long before their initial reveal back when they released the notes for GOTY then I still stand by my claim since IO didn’t have to release these coins to begin with.
The fact of the matter is, there isn’t a clear answer on why IO did this, what is known is this award was made specifically for people who met the criteria to earn it. The Coins were always meant to be limited and by no means currently meant to make a return for people to earn unless transferred from HITMAN 2 into HITMAN 3.
Agreed. I was never debating that point. I actually said the exact same thing in a recent wishlist thread on here to someone else asking for ioi to re-release them.
My original post was in response to you claiming they were specifically for early adopters of the episodic content who “trusted” ioi’s concept. Which was wrong. My DLC comment was also wrong. Two wrongs make a right so we’re actually BOTH right. So win/win.
I can tell you that the “ET Marathon” idea has been discussed informally, but it’s generally seen as having limited appeal. It’s not impossible, but very unlikely to formalise.
In terms of solving the ‘unlocks problem’, I already have ideas for some of the unlocks that are currently not available in H3, but were in H2.
When it comes to the ICA Performance Coins, they’re not up for grabs. If you didn’t ‘earn’ them when we gave them out, they won’t be coming back elsewhere. There’s definitely a delicate line between what we make available to everyone (and I’m generally on the side of making things available) and I see that reflected in the comments - but there was definitely an element of rewarding and thanking players who supported the H1 release and playing the ET’s attached to those coins, and I think that value is worth preserving. Even though it does make them inaccessible to all players.
Just some thoughts.
EDIT: Just to add more detail to the reward element of the coins and the process behind it. I remember requesting that we do something for players who completed ALL of the H1 ET’s, or even those who completed them all SA. Ultimately, we landed on a slightly more generous solution where more players would get something - even if they didn’t play/SA them all.
Thanks for the reply and clarification of the situation around these items. I understand and accept this situation. Now, for me, the topic of Performance Coins has become closed
That’s fair with the coins, Though what about say the unlocks between Hitman 1 to Hitman 2. I.E the Aluminium Travel Case and the Black Winter Coat? Given they are a fair bit more substantial than the coins.
If the Aluminium Briefcase will become unlockable, Perhaps a Hitman 1 Photo Challenge with the Camera?
There was talk before launch about adding photo challenges to older maps which I was excited about but considering how glitchy the H3 ones were, I guess they decided against it.
The whole idea reminds me of Doom Ultra Nightmare difficulty where you if you die, you have to start the game again.
Something like the ultimate challenge for the players who want to prove they know game mechanics in and out.
As both Doom and Hitman player, I do have extremely positive feelings to the idea of ET marathon - finishing it on the first try is not the point, it’s challenging yourself and performing better and better with each try is where it’s all at - first time you’ve passed 7 ETs before failing, next time it’s 12 ETs, one day it’s gonna be all of them and that’s what drives you and motivates you
So if there is a chance of ET Marathon being real, count this post as my vote for
There are many people who are determined to unlock everything that if you were to have a prize for completing a mode like that (as you should for the task that would be), there would be some uproar.
In Japan, the PS version of HITMAN1 was released as late as August 10, 2017.
Even avid HITMAN fans who had played all previous titles were unable to play the elusive target and had no opportunity to obtain performance coins.
It may be difficult to give all users an equal opportunity, but it is still very disappointing that they will not be redistributed.
For example, if we did the same thing with “HITMAN3” (distributing the elusive first year target play commemorative coins), would Steam users who were unable to purchase “HITMAN3” lose the opportunity to obtain the performance coins?
I am the type of user who likes to complete items.
In that regard, I must say that “HITMAN1-3” is an interesting play experience, but a disappointing game.
I think the “limited edition” is an element that only some people enjoy and many others do not.
I don’t think it is a good idea to overemphasize the value of the “limited” and to lower the value of the “regular” in relation to the “limited”.
I hope that future IOI games will not include such limited elements that do not give all users the opportunity.
People who earned a Performance Coin that carried over to HITMAN 2 on PC should be-able to Transfer their Progress over if they haven’t done so already.
As what Travis said they have a very fine line on what will be made available for everyone and what won’t be. He is generally on the side of make things available to everyone, but in the case of these ICA Coins he confirmed that their was a element of rewarding and thanking the playerbase who supported H1’s Launch and played atleast one of the ET tied to the first batch of ET. Travis said it best the Coins have a value worth preserving. Even if it does make it inaccessible to others.
The ICA Coins are an anomaly in terms of HITMAN Unlocks given even Legacy Players can’t own all of them.
I can’t say much on the Black Winter Suit and Season One Travel Briefcase since they were created specifically for HITMAN 2. I wouldn’t be surprised if they allow people to unlock them down the road, but they also might keep the BWS inaccessible unless you earned it in the past.
At the end of the day these were loyalty awards of sorts and are basically vanity items that are no different to limited edition cosmetics in a series like Borderlands.
Its a nice idea in theory, but honestly it sounds way too random and difficult for the majority of the playerbase.
Tying rewards – especially to specific targets – in a randomized mode like this would be crushing if you get a bad roll.
There’s 40-something targets, and getting at least past 10 would be difficult, unless you’re following a step-by-step guide to guarantee success (which shouldn’t be the strategy here).
And tying rewards (especially ones so limited – but were so easily earned back in 2017) to such a major challenge of SA or SASO 40 times in a row, seems excessive.
I get the appeal of having unique, one-of-a-kind stuff. The real cream-of-the-crop stuff to show your skill… but honestly that’s not in the spirit of Hitman, nor in a single-player game for that matter (even if it has a GAAS model)
Speedrunning is generally considered “good/skilled player” in this community, and they don’t need a special item to show that off – just speed.
Not posting this as any kind of a dig, but if Travis/Clemens is reading this thread then for info - as a player who has earned the exclusive H1/H2 items like the ICA Outstanding Performance Coin etc - I would have absolutely zero problem whatsoever if new players had a way to unlock those items in H3.
My personal preference is to provide options for all players to earn all unlocks in HITMAN 3 as the final conclusion of this amazing trilogy, and even though I’m proud to have supported IOI during the original runs of H1/H2, there’s not even a tiny part of me that would begrudge new players the chance to earn everything in the game that I have.
Thank you for your reply.
Performance coins are certainly one of the items I would like to have, but that is not the main thing I want to talk about.
I wanted to communicate that there are users who are not being given the opportunity.
I brought up Steam because Steam users were not given the opportunity to play for a year.
“The Steam version of H3 was released a year late. Wouldn’t it be sad for Steam users if the limited items were released within that one year?” This was intended to be an analogy.
Is it easier to understand if you think in terms of an elusive target?
Steam users have to watch the elusive target appear and leave for a year.
Fortunately, the Elusive Target is entering its second year.
The “time up” targets did not return, though.
In fact, on the day the Japanese PS version of HITMAN 1 was released, there was already no way to obtain performance coins.
Elusive Target had already completed one round before the release date in Japan.
This was one of the saddest things for Japanese PS version “HITMAN” users.
And so the items that were not given a chance to obtain are still unobtainable in H3 as they are.
In other words, HITMAN in Japan had ended the fun of item completion at the time of its launch in Japan in 2016.
I was astonished by this.
What I wanted to convey is that creating limited-time items, not just for “HITMAN”, will not please new users at all, who for some reason or another could not buy the items on the release date.
This is one of the major factors that spoil the enjoyment of the game for users like me who consider item completion as one of the ways to enjoy the game.
I wanted IOI to know that there are such users.
This is what I mean.
As a side note, I also know that I can only get one of three types of performance coins.
In that sense as well, HITMAN is a disappointing game for users who want to complete items.
So I’ve partially played new batch which have been The Quanta and The Indices and I wasn’t overly impressed, a lot of repeat ET’s with complications that don’t even effect your strategy.
The clutches looks alright with a few new ET’s in there, is this the best one of the lot? I also thought they were getting rid of the 5 level contracts so presumably this is the last of its kind. Although I seem to have enjoyed the 5 level ones the most.
