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“Trump is Hitler” is not something you say lightly. To quote yourself:

If Vance can call Trump Hitler and get back-pats and cookies and a running mate slot from Trump in 2024, what’s so bad about the media coverage around Trump?

As Heisenberg said, Vance is a spineless leech who would say anything for a chance at the Oval Office.

Bet you’re wishing Trump picked Haley or Stefanik or Burgum.

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Actually I like Vivek Ramaswamy.

He would have been a decent running mate too.

Hell, Don Jr. and Ivanka would probably have been better running mates than Vance.

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The moderator (Linsey Davis) is 13 years younger than Harris and neither of them went to the same university, hell they weren’t even in university at the same time. That sorority also has over 355 thousand members across many universities. Are they all in cahoots with Harris too?

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Vance is gonna take the fall when Trump loses. Mark my words, Trump is going to scapegoat him over it. As soon as Vance’s unpopularity and controversial statements started taking the spotlight, Trump began preparing to blame him for a loss, you know, outside the whole idea that the election is somehow rigged. After saying the Democrats cheated and stole the election from him by letting millions of illegal immigrants vote, which is not a thing, he’s also going to simultaneously say that Vance’s unpopularity brought him down because people didn’t want to vote for him if it meant Vance was the VP. Anything to not accept the reality that he has never been a popular candidate, ever.

And the MAGA base will believe him and treat Vance the way they treat Mike Pence now, the moderate republicans won’t like him because they’ll see him as a flip-flopping fool who makes them all look bad by saying his stupid things, and of course Democrats will never want the guy for everything he’s said about women and children, so he has no future in politics after this election.

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Finally. Ever since I learned the details of plastic recycling I had the urge to burn every piece of it I get my hands on, because what you give back to the world will end up being burned anyway or as pollution in every organism.

I hope this succeeds.

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Not technically news, but Mehdi Hasan is always a delight. Starts at about 12:47.

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If you needed any new examples of how celebrities, no matter what wonderful people they may be, or have convinced you they are, are absolutely useless when it comes to dealing with real shit in life. Everyone was cheering when Taylor Swift endorsed Harris, but where is her entitled, supposedly-activist ass when something like this happens and national outcry from a beloved celebrity can apply pressure to help save a life? Where’s Tom Hanks, where’s Dolly Parton, where’s Keanu Reeves when you need money and fame and fan-power to accomplish something governments won’t? Not a fucking thing.

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If the Supreme Court of Missouri won’t listen to investigators, prosecutors or even the family of the victim then what makes you think Tom Hanks is going to do anything to change a judge’s mind about it?

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I think there’s a saying that goes “never meet your heros”. For the most part I think celebrities should just stick to entertainment.

I suppose but I would like to point out Keanu Reeves is pro-cop, I believe the LAPD has him on ridealongs occasionally. Ah this is for Heisenberg not you of course unless you wanted to know that Keanu isn’t as wholesome Reddit chungus as you would think.

In which case I am happy to help end celebrity worship in the digital age!

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More widespread public pressure, for one, since this is barely being reported off of TikTok.

For two, it’s not even that they can or can’t do anything, but the silence. Famous people are quick to come out and give their support when it helps their image during things like what side we support in the Middle East, who is running for office, and the need to find the poor little white girl lost in the woods. But where are they when something horrible is about to happen, there’s time for people to maybe do something about it, and they’re not coming out in support of it? Even if they take a self-serving angle on it, it could help their image. Even if it does nothing, it’s says something, though I’m not claiming precisely what, when none of the famous people that are followed almost religiously by fans the world over don’t at least speak up and say something in cases like this. They claim to be humanitarians, a lot of them, yet pick and choose which issues to speak out on. The inconsistency is just irritating to me.

Am I being irrational, or is this a reasonable expectation?

I agree. Trump should never have entered politics.

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Is it rational that we should be outraged at the US carceral system? Yes. I have relatives who follow the Innocence Project occasionally and I even know Wallace’s story but as an Australian there is only so much I can do about it and if I was American then even if Wallace was given his appeal there is still hundreds of others facing capital punishment. Individual appeals for single people are good to advocate for but they will never end the idea of capital punishment in America.

Is it rational to assume that a celebrity would have heard about every single injustice being enacted every day in America and do something about it? No. Ninety percent of celebrities are over-opinionated bourgeois theatre kids, they aren’t superheroes but i left a link below to celebrities that give some semblance of a shit about this issue. I definitely recommend Adam Ruins Everything or whatever projects Adam Conover has going on.

Is it rational to pick and choose which cases you fight for and not? Yes, sadly the human being can only devote so much emotional energy. When normal people take on to much from any one cause or to many causes they either become an apathetic burnouts or go fucking insane.

It sucks but not everybody will always devote the same emotional energy to a cause you support even if they are somebody you like and even if they are somebody who has numerous pet causes. Most celebrities have numerous pet causes for a reason, they only engage with issues on very basic levels. It is why a lot of people just don’t care about celebrity politics, they are basic shit we already know from experience.

But if you want to find some celebrities who give a shit about abolishing the death penalty then the link here will take you to The Innocence Project’s artist ambassadors.

I say we swap Marcellus Williams with Trump. The state of Missouri get the joys of executing a hardened criminal and we get to have a man walk free..

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Oh and I wanted to leave a link to The Innocence Project’s petition. Celebrities are useless in this fight but YOU aren’t.

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You don’t become a celebrity with altruism. :person_shrugging: It does not mean famous people never are that, just that they likely are good at something else.

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:rofl: Might be some truth to that. Everybody seem to like him more before he got into politics.

I think that is very debatable. He pissed a ton of people up in Scotland a few years before he became president when he decided to build his garish golf course which destroyed a nature habitat.

Superman took shots at him in the 80s (as did Justice League International supposedly), Back to the Future did so famously and even fucking Mario of all franchises has taken shots at Trump in their movie. Trump was known as an asshole who knocked down historic buildings and/or minority housing to build shitty hotels on top of them, supporting giving the death penalty to five innocent people then never apologizing after their acquittal and generally being a scummy pitchman with a thing for gold plated crap.

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Oh I’m not saying he was universally loved but he was much more liked or accepted in the 80’s and 90’s then he is now. Plenty of Youtube videos to see for yourself.