Way back in Paris, Andre a Martinez had a polite chat with a women who was implied to be a member of the US congress.
So for all we know that person being angry about Rico’s death could be a (former) US politician who was part of a shady faction that backed Rico Delgado for unkown reasons. Makes more sense to me that him being with Providence.
Grey probably chose the Delgado cartel because he had something their leader wanted (the name of the killer of his uncle) and because they were the biggest opponent of the Moreno cartel (who’s an asset of Providence).
Maybe. I’m not sure why Providence would be precluded from having 2 assets in the area, particularly if keeping them in balance is good for keeping the peace in the area. More stability = more control. It’s also a way more straightforward interpretation of “our SOB” which makes it more likely in my mind.
Maybe, but isn’t the bigger draw that they also had a massive underground transportation network? Grey was effectively trading a name he already has for untraceable routes around the world which is a fucking genius bargain.
Thing is, I don’t think everyone at that party is necessarily affiliated with (or aware of) Providence. This particular lady might as well just be working for the CIA or State Department and referring to Delgado that way because his actions perfectly fit their policy/intentions in Latin America (whether he was cooperating with them or not).
Oh, don’t let the lol fool you. I’m completely serious about this. Michael Vogt himself could descend from the heavens Denmark and tell me otherwise and I would face him and walk backwards into hell.
Do we have a definitive answer on if the Sommelier ever takes the wine up himself?
I replayed the mission today, getting the tour going without dressing as Corvo or Vargas. After they get to the barrel room, I listened to the Sommelier’s conversation, emetic poisoned him and grabbed the Grand Paladin, then went up to the Herald meeting as a guard and placed the wine.
Then about 2 minutes after I killed Yates upstairs and was headed to the dance floor, a PiP popped up showing the Sommelier walking up to the pedestal the wine sits on and reaching out to grab it, but obviously nothing was there. I just went back to check and he walks over to the big barrel door and stands there waiting.
This bug thread got me thinking, are there any other starting locations in any other map that completely remove an npc? If you play a contract using this starting point that has you eliminate Mario Llosa it’s impossible to complete as he won’t ever spawn. I know using the private detective starting location makes it so he just stays at his car. Other unique disguise starting locations I thought of, the bank robber and personal trainer have no effect on the level. It’s kind of strange that in this one instance you completely assume Mario’s identity.
I think contracts mode shows a need for an additional exit, with tango (most likely) off the table. As it stands, there are no exits where you aren’t trespassing in your suit, which I think makes it unique among the trilogy. And on such a large level, there are areas now where the trek to an exit is pretty long. Maybe taking a car from the parking lot would suffice?
It’s possible, I’ll need to test more to see if anything else is needed to trigger it. My reply a couple posts up shows how I did the mission when I accidentally found it.
When I went back it was from my earliest auto save from that run, where I had already emetic poisoned his wine but not yet grabbed the paladin. I grabbed a guard outfit and waited for him to stop being sick, then just let him walk through his route 6 or so times. After that is what you see in the video.
During one playthrough, I was walking up the stairs at the underground waterside entrance to the meeting room. Mid-way up the stairs, I got a picture-in-picture of the room with the 1945 Grand Paladin. At that point I think I had already taken it. Nothing happened in the picture-in picture, but I had an idea that maybe the Sommelier would have walked in there and picked it up. I couldn’t replicate this again - I’ve never since seen that picture-in-picture come up. I also can’t remember how long I’d been playing the mission when it happened.
I wonder if the sommelier is just damaged scripting? The Bank had some wonky behaviour with Athena.
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Yes! The car idea is good and the level also needs the ability to just walk out of the gate all the way up at the top. It makes no sense that 47 couldn’t leave the estate.
It seems impossible to get Tamara Vidal on her own away from her personal bodyguard unless you use distractions/poisons etc etc etc for Suit Only, as she has a very limited route & is out in the open/checking in with security or visiting the cinema . Well I was doing some testing today & found a way to get her on her own And her personal bodyguard is not an issue no more. Neither was these clowns who kept following her around the whole map when I was doing some fun testing. The puzzle has been solved & I’ll upload the gameplay to show/explain how this method has not been discovered by anyone else
Nice I’m 100% certain that nobody has discovered the method I have come across & I use no lures/no distractions/no subdue/no coins/no weapon drops/no exploits etc etc etc
A 100% “Ghost Assassin” run. A method/strategy i 100% guarantee Nobody else has discovered on how to eliminate Tamara Vidal on her own with all these strict requirements implemented to try & make it challenging:
Master Difficulty
Staring Location: Default
Target #1: Don Archibald Yates
Target #2: Tamara Vidal
No HUD
No Evidence Destroyed
No Cameras Destroyed
No Subdue/Pacify
No Instinct Used
No Distractions Of Any Kind
No Coins Used
No Explosions
No Grapes Used
No Banana Peel Used
No Glitches
No Exploits
No Poisons Used
No Emetic Syringes Used
No Items Thrown
No Bumping Into NPC’s
No Weapon Drops
No Peek-A-Boo Lures On Targets
No KO
Tamara Vidal Cinema Trap Avoided
No Alarms
No Alerts
No Lockdowns
No Save
Fibre Wire Kills Only
Eliminate Don Archibald Yates
Eliminate Tamara Vidal
Bodies Hidden
Objective: Do Not Eliminate Diana Burnwood
100% Stealth
100% Ghost Assassin
Never Spotted Once
Suit Only
5 Star Silent Assassin Rating
How to kill Tamara Vidal on her own by covering the strict requirements i set above^^. You talk to Diana 3 times where you have conversations with both Diana & Tamara. Your essentially starting the Feature “The Talented Mr. Rieper” & Tamara Vidal wants to meet you for a private word in the cinema. She essentially @ this point thinks she has Agent 47 in a trap, as there is 5 Bodyguards waiting for you (including her personal bodyguard). But what Tamara Vidal doesn’t realise is that she has already been outsmarted by 47’s higher IQ & he already knows what awaits him. Tamara Vidal’s curiosity of Mr. Rieper gets the better of her as she is only focused on him & getting him eliminated. But I figured out a way to get her on her own with No Bodyguards around, use her own trap against her, break her line of sight on 47 to avoid the Target/Combat “Lockdown” situation occur. Tamara Vidal was already dead before she knew it!!! It was a bad move on her part to try & trap 47. But by getting her on her own with all of the above strict requirements implemented, in a 1v1 situation she was “Easy Prey”
This only works by doing the method i discovered & if you time it 100% correctly, you can avoid all the above & avoid Tamara calling in her “Lockdown/Combat” trap on 47. She wanted to play Chess with 47, but got outplayed in every move
You can do this with No Load Out too, I just used a Fibre Wire as it was obviously a FW version only
. Well I was doing some testing today & found a way to get her on her own 
And her personal bodyguard is not an issue no more. Neither was these clowns 
I’m 100% certain that nobody has discovered the method I have come across & I use no lures/no distractions/no subdue/no coins/no weapon drops/no exploits etc etc etc 
