(Spoilers) 007 First Light Discussion Thread

Challenges seem to be a bit funky at times. I found that completely closing the game and then going back in and doing the exact same thing would then cause them to trigger.

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Finished it a couple of days ago.
I really like the story and the vibes in the game. It really sucks you in!
I love the bluff part too and the way its implemented.

I wish 47 could speak his way out of certain situations but I dont want a copy paste mechanic in Hitman.
I do however wish the “sabotage” (door) option became a part of Hitman! That would add some pretty neat ways to dispose of non targets!

Anyway, I found the game very well made and enjoyed every second of it.
Been grinding the challenges which also feels very hitman-like. And I hope a lot of stuff gets added to the TacSim, because at the moment its mostly just fighting.

The game itself I give 9.5.
But the replay value only a 6.
Looks like Hitman will remain my comfort game still.

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Looks like people have realised the rarity of the Coca-Cola skins (as well as the others) and are selling their codes on eBay. One auction for the Coca-Cola skins is up to ÂŁ60 already and still has a few days to go.

I hope IO releases these in other ways soon so they destroy this market - as these are just going to hike up in price as time goes on as the number of unredeemed codes reduces.

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The Absolution comparisons don’t really make sense on a deeper level. Yes, the environments are made of linear sections and small sandboxes in both games, but making your way through is actually fun in First Light.

In Absolution, even if the general art direction was cool at times, the broken disguise system meant that you really only moved through these environments by awkwardly hiding behind covers. Gunplay wasn’t great either. It made the basic gameplay loop frustrating.

With First Light there is 1000 options for engaging gameplay. Sneaking, gadgets, hand-to-hand, firefights, bluffs, environmental distractions etc.

Needless to say, First Light has been a great ride so far. I’m really impressed.

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People could destroy it themselves by picking the correct option of not giving a fuck, especially when they were shown early and up-front by IOI - well before the game actually released - that acquiring every last cosmetic would be unconscionably difficult, if not impossible.

The old adage about people also applies to gamers: a person is smart, people are stupid.

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This is true. But there is a small part of me that is enjoying the situation - since IO’s extensive use of FOMO is causing people that are so desperate to have everything, they’re getting them through other means that means when the eventually DLC packs go on sale - there is less money for them to make because some people that would’ve bought it without hesitation will already have it.

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Also, sounds like First Light may be the last IOI Bond game.

While IO Interactive self-published that game, the head of Amazon Games says that won’t be the case going forward. In an interview with Polygon, Jeff Gattis, GM of gaming at Amazon, says that while the tech giant “didn’t have the full rights to this First Light James Bond game,” sequels will be “done by MGM and, theoretically, by Amazon Game Studios.”

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Yay! Had a genuinely great time with 007FL, but due to its inherent lack of replayability (for me, at least), I’d much prefer IOI’s main focus to return to Hitman, even if that comes at the cost of a less capable studio going forward with future Bond games.

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Or, given the success of this game, IOI might be in a position to renegotiate their involvement in potential sequels. They’re now going to have succeeded in not just being known as the company that makes Hitman, so that gives them some edge.

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Will be interesting to see if they just mean IOI wouldn’t self-publish the next game, or if they won’t be involved at all.

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Yeah, you make a fair point, they’ll have the leverage to make the scar even MORE pronounced… :face_blowing_a_kiss:

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More so IOI developed and then published by Amazon. I don’t see a world where a First Light sequel happens by someone else that isn’t IOI.

the biggest hurdle for First Lights future is just how to pump out a game faster since First Light took seven years of development with a 200 Million Budget if I’m correct.

other than that Bonds future in video games is heavily dependent on what comes next. If they don’t pursue First Lights sequel without IO the game and by extension Bonds space in the gaming industry is dead in the water.

in other words Amazon may front the Bill but IOI bring the talent.

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I assume any IOI sequels wouldn’t take anywhere near as long, since they can build off of what they’ve got from First Light. They just have to build new maps/cutscenes, throw in some new features and push it out.

Just like how H2 and H3 took way less time than H1 to make because they already had the groundwork there.

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This is my reading.

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The complexity is in ownership of the rights. IOI can’t make another Bond game without Amazon’s say-so (obviously). But, on the flip side, I don’t think Amazon can proceed with a First Light sequel without IOI’s involvement/permission as IOI now have some degree of ownership over the First Light IP.

Depends on what the original deal was when IOI got the Bond IP. It could stipulate they can develop as many games as they want, as long as they are released before a specific date, or they can produce x number of sequels within a specific timeframe.

Amazon potentially might have no choice but to let IOI develop it.

That article is very poorly written and is very fuzzy on the difference between publishing and developing.

Future James Bond games will come from Amazon Games, confirms boss

While IO Interactive self-published that game, the head of Amazon Games says that won’t be the case going forward. In an interview with Polygon, Jeff Gattis, GM of gaming at Amazon, says that while the tech giant “didn’t have the full rights to this First Light James Bond game,” sequels will be “done by MGM and, theoretically, by Amazon Game Studios.”

„Come from“ and „done by“ sound like developing, but I assume they just mean publishing, especially with this sentence towards the end:

If it can keep IO Interactive involved, Amazon might finally find a foothold in the AAA games space.

Besides, after reading this article I‘m not even sure, if sequels are actually confirmed. As a journalist, that is definitely a question you should ask during an interview like this.

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Well, gaming/entertainment journalists are not the most reliable/competent in the space anyway.

I agree they probably refer to publishing. It would be stupid to get rid of IO given not only the massive success of First Light, but also the fact that they own the engine and the foundational work has already been done, making producing sequels much easier and faster. Comercialy, keeping them would be the smart choice, it’s essentially free money.

Although, then again, this is the same company that thought King of Meat was a good idea, and even sponsored a full god damn Mr. Beast video about it, so there is groundworks for stupidity.

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I’m no expert, but I’m sure the Amazon guy giving the interview about Amazon studios potentially making the next game barely a week after First Light’s release has a clear meaning: Internally, he knows the game is a bit of a flop, and is already shaping the narrative that IO won’t be touching the Bond IP again.

It seems to me that First Light’s ridiculous $200,000,000 budget means that the game will barely break even, or may even be a financial loss. The 1,500,000 sales figures in the first 24 hours were great, but when the initial praise died down and more people realised that First Light is bit of a restrictive, linear damp squib with no replayability, that will surely harm sales in the long run.

If this is true, it may simply be too expensive for IO to pay Amazon to have the publishing rights and have to split the profits for future titles.

So, potentially, it means that Amazon will churn out their own Bond games and IO can return to Hitman. Everyone’s a winner! Er, maybe…

But what do I know? This is just my uninformed analysis!

https://www.ign.com/articles/io-interactive-wont-self-publish-future-james-bond-games-amazon-will-have-more-control

This potentially sheds more light on the matter, making it a bit more explicit that IO self-publishing future games is what they’re referring to.

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