I like where it ended, 47 and Diana finally moving past the agency
I loved the dream sequence, thought they handled it as perfectly as I’ve seen any dream sequence handled. (The targets surrounding 47 actually made me chuckle in real life coz I was just so impressed IO had done that)
I hated the Diana twist. It really was Blood Money 2.0, need I say more?
I wasn’t s huge fan of how early Lucas went out. I agree he had to die, and I like his sacrifice play. But we barely got any time with him
Overall I’d say this had the weakest story of the three games. Mainly because it didn’t have the ramp up that I would expect in the third act of a story. You start off by killing the partners, then spend the next two missions killing characters we’ve never heard of before now, then it’s back to big Providence names for the end two missions
Blood Money took place in 2004 and 2005. Diana and 47 had only known each other for 4 or 5 years. We also don’t know what happened in the 6 years between Blood Money and Absolution where 47 gets rehire by the ICA and back with Diana. Also surely 47 would realise Diana actually saved him despite everything falling apart. He’d presumably have more trust for her then.
Also the beginning of Absolution, when 47 takes he contract on Diana, you hear him trying to convince himself that one day this will just feel like another mission. He’s clearly feeling about it. He clearly cared about Diana on a deeper level by this point.
Then after he shoots her he decides to not kill her and hears her out. Yes the Clone thing hits a soft spot but we’re demonstrating, here, that he has a soft spot. And his relationship with Diana isn’t just business. The fact that Diana did all that for Victoria probably cemented this.
Then Hitman 1,Hitman 2 and Hitman 3 all take place on 2019. That’s 7 years after Absolution. That’s 15 years after Blood Money.
You’re saying that 15 years working with Diana it’s not realistic he’s developed a deeper bond for the woman? In the 7 years after Absolution? C’mon.
And the world of Assassination Trilogy he also regains his memories. He has a bond with Lucas and Diana has been with him every step of the way. He’s not an idiot. He understands that killing her parents is an act of betrayal. By Hitman 3 he’s on a mission on personal revenge and justice.
It completely makes sense why he’d tell Diana “I’m sorry”. He killed her parents. She didn’t betray him in Blood Money. She saved him. And it was over 15 years ago when they didn’t know each other as well.
The best Hitman story of all the time, IO didn’t destroyed everything. I’m just sad that the 3 games doesn’t have the same sequences. But is epic good job.
What the hell is weird logic? How on earth can you “betray” someone you don’t even know? 47 didn’t know who he was killing and most likely either didn’t remember or did not know that they were Diana’s parents. And most importantly: he did it not of his own free will, 47 was just Providence puppet. Actually, even Diana admits it that it is stupid to be angry with him because of this. Diana is the one who betrayed him. Yes, I know she wanted to repeat the Blood Money Twist but still: once again Diana put 47 in real risk of being that puppet again - that’s what had to happen if Constant didn’t act like complete idiot to justify this shitty scenario. And it’s silly to say that 47 should feel guilty before her because of the death of her parents. Together they killed many people who were also someone’s parents. Providence is to blame for the death of Diana parents.
No, she is not. She just use him to destroy Franchise. She still betrayed his trust and placed him in grave danger. The antidote might not have worked (which can even happen in the non-canon ending) and even when it did 47 could be easily overwhelmed by the superior number of guards. The fact that he killed them all is also just luck and the effect of surprise, everything could have ended in a completely different way. The fact that 47 did not get in touch with Diana at the end of Blood Money is revealed for a reason. Yes, the situation was terribly difficult, but she still deceived him.
If we simply go by numbers then Absolution is the most progressive game of the franchise with a total of nine female targets, more than any other Hitman game. On top of that, every single one of the female targets was armed. Plenty of strong female characters in Absolution.
But, yes, more female targets is not necessarily more feminist. Carlisle, Royce and Vidal are badass, fascinating and layered targets, while the Saints, Layla and Jade, they’re not exactly Beth Harmon to say the least.
Personally, I would like to see a female main antagonist down the road. We almost had one in Carlisle.
Funnily Enough this was also the concept I had for a Hitman 2 (Now Hitman 3?) Modded Campaign. I’ll actually still do this, when NPC Model Replacement becomes possible.
Yeah same! I spend a while looking for her, was quite disappointed we didn’t get to. Also as a handler she wouldn’t need combat AI (something they can’t/won’t do with female NPCs) so they could’ve easily made her an NPC in the level
Yes betray wasn’t the right word. But you know what I mean. 47 knows it’s a big deal that he killed her parents and he’s at least remembered since the mid point of Hitman 2. It’s a very personal act and I’m sure he doesn’t feel great that he killed the parents of Diana willfully or not. He understands that’s going to hurt her deeply. His journey throughout the franchise has been his connection to people.
Also you’re completely reading into the final scene of Blood Money there. The end is ambiguous, its not a reveal that he didn’t go back to Diana. We’re not sure what the future holds
Also Diana could’ve easily just let 47 die. And clearly there was no animosity otherwise 47 wouldn’t feel bad about killing her at the beginning of Absolution, would he? And again Absolution was all about cementing their relationship as being more than just business.
And again Blood Money was 15 years ago. You’re ignoring that point. And you’re ignoring that 47 helped Diana in a big way. He demonstrated and emotional connection to both Diana and empathy towards Victoria and how it related to himself.
He clearly has feelings of being wronged himself and seeking justice otherwise he wouldn’t have joined Lucas Grey’s mission. Why wouldn’t he feel bad for killing his closest friend’s parents? He had the capacity to question his actions in Silent Assassin when he was speaking to Vittorio about hell and morality. And why wouldn’t he have a stronger bond with Diana 15 years after Blood Money and 7 years after the Victoria event?
There is no real evidence that 47 really remembered anything before Diana poisoned him. First, it is clearly stated that memory does not return instantly, these are only fragments. It is nowhere clear whether the memory of this murder before the poisoning returned to him. Secondly, how was he supposed to remember this? He didn’t know Diana. I’m not sure he even knew the names of people he killed for Providence. 47 killed hundreds, maybe thousands. It will be too difficult for him to just remember the murder of Diana’s parents and understand that it was they, even if he fully regained his memory. I’m pretty sure he only remembered this murder when he was unconscious after her poisoning. In the Cutscene after Dubai, Gray and 47 discuss Constanta’s escape and Gray thinks that 47 shouldn’t trust Diana, but her parents murder is never mentioned (significant reason to question her loyalty, right?).And later, when 47 realizes that Diana has made a deal with Edwards, he only mentions “price.”
But its not a big deal! Even Diana admits it. 47 was just a limp weapon of Providence and the fact that it was he who, by an incredible coincidence, killed Diana parents means nothing. Providence would have sent any other assassin. It is Providence who is to blame for this. Is Diana going to destroy Providence? No, she wants to join them.
No, the end of Blood Money is clear: Diana restored ICA using Franchize resources but could not contact 47. And then we saw that 47 decided to find another employer. Nothing ambiguous here.
Diana could have let him die, but then she would have been just a minor figure in Franchize. She needed 47 to destroy them and restore ICA. Yes, at what point 47 returned to ICA and everything is back to the status quo (otherwise it would be difficult to continue the story). But we should not exaggerate the significance of Diana. Victoria was not only for Diana’s sake, 47 had some sympathy for her due to a similar fate with him.
And because of this part, I am convinced of my point: you greatly exaggerate the importance of Diana. He didn’t just “join”, he was the one who started this war. They started this war as kids, he just didn’t remember it.
Because Providence is to blame, 47 had no real choice. Because 47 is not an ordinary person at all to form close bonds. And because Diana deceived him a second time and put him in great danger, and this time there was no real reason for this. He was supposed to be dead or become a Providence puppet again if Edwards hadn’t been acting like a idiot.
To me it looked like 47 started to remember he killed Diana’s parents at the end of H2, the look in his eyes was kind of forlorn at that moment in a way we hadn’t really seen before.
The way I felt it play out was that Diana learned of what 47 did and kind of made her peace with it with a plan to both take down Providence and send 47 on what effectively was a suicide mission.
Think about it. Either way it goes, Diana Burnwood wins. If 47 is serum-ed, Diana and 47 are allied within Providence. 47’s memory loss being the ultimate revenge for Diana Burnwood.
If 47 is killed trying to get to Arthur Edwards, it’s his loss. Diana continues as a Herald of Providence. She will find some other way to achieve her goals. The killer of her parents finally destroyed.
If 47 eliminates the Constant, Diana goes through with her plan, destroying Providence and therefore H3 ends with both of the largest “corporations” of the World of Assassination eliminated. Diana and 47 (making peace for his terrible past, particularly against Diana) both become allies in a World of Privateer Assassination where they take up a preference for contracts to aid the landed but helpless against the even more landed and lawless (basically an anti-hero version of KNIGHT RIDER).
Diana was never going to lose. No matter what the outcome.
Expect when 47 shows up at The Constant’s office he immediately realizes that Diana betrayed him. So if 47 takes the serum The Constant’s next action would most likely be to order the death of Diana.
A stretch in the sense that it was the “inspiration/hallucination” of Lucas Grey and the belief that Diana “rejects the power not the responsibility…”… So willingly getting himself injected was always kind of a “joker choice”.
Still, if it were to happen, then yes, Diana could be in a lot of trouble.
But a blank slate 47 is probably also free for the taking.
I presumed Providence Herald Diana would have moles and agents also on the train. She would have learned what would have happened.
47 getting killed doesn’t factor in to it. diana knows - trusts, if you will - that getting 47 on that train will result in eddie’s demise, one way or the other, because “he never misses”.
Nope you’re still ignoring everything the games have done to show 47 and Diana have had a close bond. You are right about her not knowing where he was in Blood Money. I forgot that line of dialogue. It makes no sense if he didn’t partially remember the death of Diana’s parents before he said “I’m sorry”. There’s also a line at the beginning of Hitman 3 when Grey says “I see you’ve got your memories back” when 47 makes a reference to Grey never thinking ahead. It’s not explicit but it’s clear it’s come back to him.
And he is a person who cares about others. Only in his limited way of course. He cared about Vittorio, he save Mei King twice, he clearly does care about Diana. You’ve just ignored those moments from Absolution and the WoA trilogy. They even have that moment when he deletes their data in Chongqing when Olivia realises theyre more than just partners.
He clearly cares about Diana. And he clearly feels remorse for killing her parents. And Diana clearly cares about her parents’ death. But, yes, she didn’t ultimately blame 47. But in the moment its totally understandable why 47 would say “I’m sorry”. He’s not the same person as he was 15 years ago in Blood Money. In fact the two fake betrayals show how far he’s come.
It doesn’t matter that he was a tool for Providence. He still did it and remembered doing it. He cares for Diana so he felt bad about it. Even though he was under Providence control. He’s on a very personal revenge mission and realises Diana is now doing the same to him. And he doesn’t really blame her.
It totally makes sense buddy. There’s no point ignoring their bond in the last 4 games and pointing to Hitman Bloody Money which tool pkace 15 years prior when they didn’t know each other as well.
