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What about a corndog? There is a frank dipped into cornbread batter, then fried. But that is definitely NOT a sandwich. Would it be better to call what’s commonly known as a hotdog a ‘breaddog’? Where did the “dog” name come from anyway? :dog:

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I reject all of your assertions except the last one.

That’s ok. The church rejected Darwin, too. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Because the wiener’s shape was compared to the dachshund canine, resulting in them being called wiener dogs at some point and leading to the wiener to adopt the dog name at some point.

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I guess I’ll put this here rather than the other topic.

When eating a Hot Dog or other tubular processed meat item enveloped in bread… There can sometimes be a ‘skin’. You, uh, actually like this?!

  • I prefer the frank with a skin. It’s better for holding in those delicious hot juices!
  • I prefer the frank with no or very fragile skin. There’s no annoying ‘crunch’ and it’s less messy.
  • I don’t prefer either because hotdogs are nasty! Who the hell knows what’s in 'em?
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You forgot a No Preference option.

Fan of Jon Batiste and RBG, but on this subject they can both kiss my ass.

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Wait what do you mean, hot dog skins. I’ve never heard of this, do you like… peel your hot dog?

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There are some that are made with a thicker/stronger casing. They’re just cooked that way. But the non-snappy variety is probably removed from these casings before they’re sold/distributed.

Then again, different kinds would have different ingredients. Typical “franks” seem to be made with the same stuff that bologna (lunch meat) is made from. If you consider bratwurst - those might have more raw ingredients and might require more of a “skin” to keep everything together. But there are tough-skinned franks.

One would typically just eat it that way. But if someone wanted to peel that casing off… If they dislike it that much then… Then you gotta do what you gotta do. :smile: Or just chew it and spit out the casing. Sounds like fun. :roll_eyes:

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Not really wanting a fight with this on, per se, but I would like to see if someone can make a counter argument to change my mind:

Last Christmas by Wham is not a Christmas song. It describes what happened between the singer and the object of their affection a year ago, and it happened to be during Christmas time, but the song itself is not about Christmas, and nothing that takes place during what it describes is exclusive to Christmas time, and could have taken place during any other holiday and nothing about it would change except the holiday being described.

On the contrary “Last Christmas” is a Christmas song because it describes someone putting time, thought, effort, devotion and money into giving something they care about only for the other party to not give a shit and casually toss it aside then later deciding to regift it to someone you care about. I have been giver and receiver in this situation. Which means the song can only really be about Christmas or a birthday.

Also since we are doing this: Die Hard? Not a Christmas movie for pretty much the same reason Heisenberg thinks “Last Christmas” isn’t a Christmas song.

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Don’t know if you remember this part. What you described can be done at any time of year. The fact that the person chose to do it at Christmas is incidental.

As for Die Hard, I think I started that argument the first Christmas I had here, and I made a similar argument. Don’t remember if you were part of it or on what side, but good to see that you seem to agree.

Right so ignoring it was a joke answer, the fact that it takes place on Christmas is supposed to a qualifier. The season is all about giving and receiving as well as a time people usually spend with their loved ones which makes the partner’s rejection of the gift especially heartbreaking as it comes during that period. He also attaches a card saying he loves the person with the gift, the fact that the partner didn’t read it is also supposed to mean they were always a selfish lover. The song also uses fire and ice imagery which would make sense since Christmas in England is during their winter.

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of course last christmas is a christmas song.

what are you like.

that’s not an unpopular opinion. that’s just getting something wrong.

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Having Christmas in the title doesn’t make it a Christmas song. It just means something happened during Christmas time. If it had been Last Halloween, it wouldn’t make it a Halloween song. If anything, the only holiday it might accurately correspond tonif it happened during that time would be Valentine’s Day.

Listen to this… Well, okay. If one could use AI and remove all of the vocals - just from listening to it, particularly the instruments used… What would you assume the song is intended for? Could it be… Christmas?

Why would George Micheal go through the trouble of making a song about an occurrence of betrayal or having a moment of realization that he wasn’t the mutual object of affection? Yes. Obviously, this could happen at any time… Or for the purpose of having a song that makes more of an emotional impact - a holiday. It could’ve been made for Valentine’s Day, had a whole schpeel about bringing flowers, chocolate, a puppy waiting outside in the back of his convertible… All to have his hopes of love dashed when he happens upon the person he has sincere feelings for appears to be in a very friendly interaction with someone else. The more he observes the more it becomes clear that these 2 people are an item.

Back to the use of a Holiday. The fact that he’s using Christmas should be obvious. It’s a special time, and confessing one’s love to another should make for an even more special occasion. But not all is well in Lovesville. And that’s the whole point of the song. To make an emotional impact.

Edit: Then there’s the lyrics. Not about Christmas. :unamused: pfft.

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Made the whole argument for me.

You’re not getting me. It was sarcastic. Btw, what are the lyrics? Care to post them?

Edit: I’m certain you won’t because doing so would (further) destroy your argument.

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Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special

Once bitten and twice shy
I keep my distance, but you still catch my eye
Tell me baby, do you recognize me?
Well, it’s been a year, it doesn’t surprise me

Happy Christmas, I wrapped it up and sent it
With a note saying “I love you”, I meant it
Now I know what a fool I’ve been
But if you kissed me now, I know you’d fool me again

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special

Ooh
Oh, oh, baby

A crowded room, friends with tired eyes
I’m hiding from you and your soul of ice
My God, I thought you were someone to rely on
Me? I guess I was a shoulder to cry on

A face on a lover with a fire in his heart
A man under cover, but you tore me apart
Oh, oh now I’ve found a real love
You’ll never fool me again

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special, special

Last Christmas I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special

Special

A face on a lover with a fire in his heart (I gave you mine)
A man under cover but you tore him apart
Maybe next year I’ll give it to someone
I’ll give it to someone special

Special
So long

There it is, word for word, bluff called. Now, where precisely do these lyrics destroy my argument? Because, other than the repeated title Last Christmas, and one instance of the use of Happy Christmas - enforcing once again that this is simply taking place during Christmas - the lyrics otherwise have nothing to do with Christmas, are not about Christmas, don’t promote or endorse Christmas, contain nothing about the message of Christmas (the birth of Christ and/or peace and love toward and between all fellow humans, not a romantic interest), or anything else relating to Christmas. It is a song about having affection turned down during Christmas, and therefore not a Christmas song, as I’ve already explained. Now what?