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I’m not even gonna rebuttal, that Joker gif response was priceless. Respect.

Heisenberg about Last Christmas, a song specifically set at Christmas, about feeling heartbreak at that time, by the composers own explanation written as a christmas song, musically using many christmas sounds -

Hesienberg about Jingle Bells, a song that was written as a thanksgiving/drinking song & doesn’t reference christmas

Is it really just a case of having fun with friends in December = christmas song
being down in December while your friends have fun = not christmas song?

Cover of what, please tell me what you’re talking about. The album? Meaningless. The single? Also meaningless. Covers do not inherently denote what’s within. Judge a book and all that, music also applies.

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Already explained why, if Jingle Bells were put at any other time of year, it doesn’t work the same way, and why Last Christmas, at any other time of year, doesn’t change.

Well at least you died laughing.

Its all good jarbinger :heart::heart:

… Ok, you lost me completely there.

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Well, Merry Christmas (anyway), Heisenberg, no matter how wrong you are. :sweat_smile:

You spelled my name with a ‘u’, and I’m wrong? :man_facepalming:

Hey… there’s cof… I mean, I fixed it. I was more worried about the i and e placement.

In my opinion, and potentially mine alone, literally any song, movie or story set at Christmas is a Christmas song/movie/story regardless of whether it has anything to do with that holiday beyond being set there. I don’t even care if anyone agrees or not with that.
Die Hard? Christmas Movie.
Last Christmas? Christmas Song.

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Oh, and I suppose you’d say that How The Grinch Stole Christmas is somehow a Christmas story, too?

Kidding. But, in following with my own argument that if you plunk Last Christmas down at any other time of year and the story won’t change means it’s not a Christmas song, I now find that I must re-examine Mr. Dickins’s A Christmas Carol. What have I gotten myself into?

You could reposition almost any “Christmas movie” to another time of year and claim that it is no longer a Christmas movie. Since my sole criteria for whether something is a Christmas movie is that it takes place at Christmas, it doesn’t matter whether you could set it at another time of year. “It’s a Wonderful Life” is pretty much the default Christmas movie at this point but it could easily have occurred in the middle of summer without changing very much. It takes place at Christmas though, so it’s a Christmas movie - zero additional criteria required.

I’ll ask again… Is there any song or songs that you would consider to be for/about Christmas?

No long, drawn-out explanations as to why. Just post the song or even make a list.

For example, a couple I might list: What Child is This, Santa Claus is Coming to Town

Now you try. Seriously. Leave it at 1 to maybe 4 or however many lines. Only song titles are allowed.

But by that same logic, you would then need to apply it to any other story at any other time of year. Is Independence Day really a 4th of July movie just because it happens around the 4th of July? Is Donnie Darko really a Halloween movie just because it takes place mostly around Halloween? Is Four Brothers a Thanksgiving movie?

And it goes the other way, too: a story could be about a particular holiday even hen it doesn’t take place around that holiday, like Rudolph and Frosty’s Christmas In July. Or, a more vague example, the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Friday the 13th movies all take place over the course of a week; only one of those three could possibly take place actually on a friday the 13th, and there is no relevance to that date before or after it passes, only on the actual day: are the other two films not Friday the 13th films just because they don’t take place on that day?

Im curious. What are your thoughts on love actually?

Yes.

Also Yes.

Rudolph taking place at any other time of year wouldn’t make sense.
Frosty the Snow man isn’t a Christmas Movie but it is a Winter Movie. Frosty’s Christmas in July I can’t speak to as I’ve never heard of it.
Friday the 13th isn’t a holiday so it’s immaterial, but since the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are simply sequels to the original one (which does take place on Friday the 13th), they don’t actually have to take place on any specific day or time. Similarly, I would say that the original Frosty movie is a Winter movie but any sequels are just continuations of that story and don’t have to occur at any particular time of year.

So if the question is “Is Frosty the Snow Man a Winter movie?”, the answer is yes. If the question is “Is Frosty’s Christmas in July a Christmas movie?”, I’d say no, because it (presumably) doesn’t occur at Christmas.

Even though the entirety of the movie is about Christmas, and celebrating it early for the purpose of celebrating it? Entirely about Christmas, just not during the usual time, still not a Christmas movie?

If it doesn’t take place at Christmas it isn’t a Christmas movie.