Bad example, @MrOchoa: the original trilogy is overrated as all hell. The only thing that still holds up from those films is Darth Vader. The original Hitman games have far more going for them than just 47.
What the fuck dude, Jabba the Hutt is probably the most convincing and lifelike Puppet ever made and it beats every CGI Bullshit theyāve come up with to this day. 
Agree with that tho, the (story) writing was so much better back then
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Youāre right!
Youāre wrong!
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iāve gone off star wars over the years, but i canāt say i agree. at the very least, the last 40 or so minutes of jedi is genuinely incredible popcorn cinema: the way it tracks all three narrative threads, how each oneās highs and lows intertwine and contrast with the others, the music, the sense of scale - itās heady stuff, even today.
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Ok, I suppose I should clarify here; I was referring to the overall trilogy, between all three films. Individual moments between the individual films are still ok here and there, but between all of them, DV is the only standout that still has staying power.
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Man, I hope everything goes well. Support to you and your family, @Hichkas.
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sorry, do you mean vader is the only element that appears in all three films that has any lasting relevance or am i misunderstanding āstaying powerā?
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Yeah, thatās the one.
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i dunno, man, that seems like a pretty hard case to argue to me, especially when the franchise is still raking in the big cash money wad sans vader.
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Yes, but people tend to look back on the original series with nostalgia glasses, when it really wasnāt as good as people like to claim. For the time, yes, but looking back from where weāve arrived in modern cinema, thereās so much room for improvement, I sometimes wonder if everything just really sucked at the time.
Dude Peter Cushing as Tarkin gets better with time too. Bringing him back from the dead in Rogue One really helps solidify his character too. Had that movie been made without a Tarkin it just wouldnāt have made much sense. They were really swinging for the fences using him in that many scenes but I think it made the story a lot better seeing the empires internal competition between branches or divisions or whatever.
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personally, i try to avoid presuming to tell people why they think something is good, it being subjective and all.
iām not sure stripping something of its historical context is a particularly useful way to analyse or criticise movies/books/art or whatever. we have different sensibilities, technology, cinematic language, audience expectations, etc. that seems a little like complaining about the production on a robert johnson record not being high quality enough, or claiming cave paintings are a bit ābasicā, if you get me?
modern blockbusters wouldnāt be where they are without og star wars and its ilk, for good or ill. given how hugely influential these films were, it is all a bit āseinfeld is unfunnyā to me.
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Nah, The Terminator is still good because the story is still engaging, the characters are all likable, most of the dialogue seems natural and is believable, and if anything, the stop motion made it look better than subsequent CGI effects, because a mechanical structured character moving with the jerky-twitchy moves of stop motion is more believable for a machine than moving with the CGI fluidity of an octopusā¦ or so I thought until I saw this:
The same cannot be said about all aspects of the original Star Wars trilogy.
Likewise. My criticism toward the original trilogy primarily stems from comparisons to the two other trilogies. For example, many people complain about the prequel trilogyās bad acting, to which I say: have you seen the originals?
All true, but Iām focused mainly on the story and acting, not so much the rest, and again, itās primarily in response to the criticisms leveled at the newer films. Iām not even saying theyāre bad movies, just that they are overrated. Perhaps overrated isnāt even the correct term, but Iām not sure how to define it better at the moment. People compare the original trilogy to all the modern films in the 2000s era onward as if the flaws of the originals never existed and didnāt carry over. Iāve never been a humongous fan of Star Wars, but enough of one to have been both a critic and defender of the franchise as a whole, and as someone who was never in love with the original trilogy on the level of many in the fan base, I can say that as movies, theyāre just as cringeworthy as the newer ones, if for different reasons.
I really hope you guys are talking about the Despecialized Version of Star Wars. Itās far superior to the new version. (and maybe we should continue this discussion over hereā¦)
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A movie from 1985 uses old cinema techniques like stop motion
deemed bad and outdated by people in 2021.
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I actually donāt mind the differences from the SE that much, most of them are really good additions to the original, especially when you compare original Bespin with the SE.
The only thing i really dislike is that awful musical number in Jabbas Palace in the SE, the original Song is way better.
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so your issue with the og trilogy is that other people hold it up as an infallible sacred cow compared to the modern films - is that rightā¦? if so, thatās less a critique of the original films, but rather a critique of a critique of the modern films. like a meta-critique!
also: i think the prequels are absolute fucking drek and the acting is appalling even by the low bar of the original trilogy .
overrated is shorthand for ālots of people like a thing i donāt likeā though. if weāre not presuming why people think some films are good (and unintentionally placing our opinion of art over others), we definitely want to avoid that turn of phrase.
dear god, i hate āoverratedā so damn much. sorry, completely irrational pet peeve 
weāve been talking about āpeopleā but i donāt know who specifically says all this. itās a little strawmanny. iām sure the sw fandom have a wealth of opinions, as evidenced by our own positions.
yeah, and you have every right to think and say that, man. you aināt wrong in any real sense, and neither is anyone who disagrees.
fair point. 
could you order 66 this part of the thread, modsā¦?
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So for the second year running itās cheaper for my wife and I to have the same insurance but separately instead of together.
We both work for the same company and we use a traditional HMO. Thankfully we love our network and our doctors, this saves us a lot bc we donāt need the PPO.
Our share of the monthly premium is $202 each if we go separate, but $442 if one of us insures the other. I canāt exactly figure out why. It used to be (for like the last 4 decades) the other way around with a slight savings if one of us carried the other. Itās still a good deal but itās frustrating bc itās double the amount of cards and paperwork etc. Vision and dental is still the way itās always been where itās cheaper for one of us to carry the other.
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Iāve finally made a new animation after what seems like months since Iāve done a proper drawings/art project, after my law exams. I didnāt wanna make anything and didnāt feel any energy to do anything actually but here you go! Iām very proud of it, itās my first animation of more than 30 seconds 
And talking about my law exams, it seems like I ended up and stayed in the waiting list of the last college option and Iāll have to give the exam one more and for the last time next year as well. Quite bummed but Iāve started up preparing for some time already and Iām pretty confident for it
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