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It’s New Vegas time again for me.

Just finished the Dead Money DLC, and headed for the strip. Aiming to do the most things possible, including a perfect stat score through all the magazines. Already level 32.

Experimenting with a survival build. Took the perk that makes animal friendly, and the one that allows to sleep at campfire. I’m playing on Hardcore, which disable healing without medical bag, or doctors. But apparently with the right set of perks (the one I already mentioned, plus one that allows to be well rested even in a non owned bed), it will be possible just by resting at a camp. I find that quite interesting to aim for.

I also aim to make money through playing Caravan. (I still dislike looting)


For the forum : I actually don’t know which faction to play this time. So can I leave it to everyone ?

  • Mr House
  • Yes Man
  • NCR
  • That’s it, nothing else exists

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I really need to do an Agent 47 run one day. There is a relatively solid disguise system in the game that I always overlook.
Plus a “a contract is a contract” mentality. It could be fun.

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I always liked to go with Mr House. Because the house always wins.

Which in NV would be basically “the first who asks me wins”. :stuck_out_tongue: So if you want to decide early, pick your order of quests.

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yes man. no gods, no masters.

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NCR babeeee, that Mojave isn’t going to patrol and tax itself.

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Also

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Either the lesser evil which is House or go full bananas with Yes Man :banana:
As for the other factions… well…

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Not really, you start the game with a delivery order. So it would be a Mr House run.

Something much more interesting though is that a large amount of quests follow the pattern of “quest giver is mislead, and you can find information on your own term to help them reassess”.

An interesting one would be the Kings.
The Kings have brewing tensions with the NCR. If you do a “perfect” run, you can find a story of hidden NCR humanitarian aid, and of a high ranking King sabotaging the communication about it. And then create an alliance between all parties, for the betterment of Freeside.


The really intersting bit is that if you do a Mr House ending, the “worst” ending actually becomes the “best” available. And one I think I never had.

If you do a Mr House Ending, while resolving the quest in the “best” way :

Accusing the Kings of lying with a foreign invader for their newfound ties to the NCR, Mr. House punished them by ordering their forced removal. the Kings, defiant to the end, were destroyed to the last man by House’s Securitrons.

If you do a Mr House Ending, while professionally doing the letter of your quest :

During the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, some Kings took it upon themselves to launch several attacks on NCR citizens and soldiers around Freeside. Mr. House looked on these actions favorably, seeing them as proof of the Kings’ loyalty to New Vegas, and decided to leave them alone.


So I would be curious to see it. Especially the going to the legion camp under disguise.

Also, I guess the whole “I need to track down Benny” is out. Too personal, unprofessional. Just the contract.
Which would make dialogue order interesting.

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“Lesser evil” being the tyrannical technocrat who is also one of the very people who was responsible for the material conditions that led to the Great War itself? The nutter who can get bodied by a single germ and thinks he can create a space program in an irradiated wasteland?

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Are the NCR or Caesar’s Legions less evil than House? :game_die:
Also why do you lose karma when you kill him? :thinking:

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Given a bad NCR leader can always be voted out and reforms can always be pushed through the NCR senate I would say yes, the game literally points out that democracy is the NCR’s biggest strength several times. They also don’t have a society based on the theme park notion of Vegas or have an economy based solely on gambling and monopolising hydroelectricity.

I didn’t say House was worse than the Legion did I? I recall saying that House is less than ideal not that he is the worst. The Legion is always the worst choice unless you are a terminally online reactionary or a legit fascist.

Same reason Colonel Moore has neutral karma despite asking you to committing genocide three times and violence being her solution to every problem. The dude in charge of the karma system of New Vegas was a trained gibbon.

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“Nice plot of land you have here, chums. It’s NCR territory now. You know what that means right? You pay taxes! What? You need protection? Sorry but we don’t have spare troops to help ya, solve your own problems! What, you’re need provisions? Too bad, we need those more than you do. What, no water for our farms, not our problem but those farmers better make those crops grow or we’ll fire them. Look, a refugee camp named Bitter Springs! They’re Great Khans?! Massacre them all!”

Nah, too corrupt, greedy and inept. The player’s job in NV when siding with the NCR is to clean their mess for them.

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Almost every society in the Wasteland does that and most people hand over or accept NCR rule simply because they do provide the luxury of being a part of a fledgling nation with robust functions of government. Even House sends out securitrons to claim places in his endings so he is no different.

Yeah how dare you get money you need to found stuff like a working rail system, basic education, a sciences department, irrigation works, correctional facilities and a stable economy. You deserve all of the benefits of a stable society without ever being asked to maintain it or contribute to its upkeep.

Every state in the NCR pays taxes and in return the NCR enables them to enjoy benefits from the government. Also House himself also has taxation on the power he would give conditionally the NCR if he wins. The terms of which are both unfair and condition to change whenever House wishes.

Except that is because of the war with Caesar’s Legion. The NCR have a lot of troops and many people will point that out, not as much as the Legion but they can make do. Also I bet you dollars to donuts if the NCR did have a great military presence that is reflected in-game that you would say they are fascist installing troops everywhere.

Except of course for the fact that the NCR has food-drives in the poorest part of the city and it was NCR-educated Follower engineers that restored their water delivery system. You can’t supply everywhere all at once especially if you don’t fully control an area and are simultaneously at war with a nation the size of the US Southwest. Did you forget the war they are fighting? Against a society that tolerates rape, pederasty, slavery and cannibalism and is led by a man who thinks he is a Roman empire but acts like a Visigoth chieftain?

House himself also isn’t above seizing something he wants by force, his entire story arch is literally him seizing the dam because he feels entitled to it.

Yeah did you play that quest? The Followers and West Vegas residents were literally stealing water from the NCR sharecroppers from the irrigation system they started. They murder the NCR trooper looking into their water theft because he found out the truth and was going to report it.

All farms have quotes, all jobs have quotas and if you don’t meet them then you are replaced, demoted or fired.

Bitter Springs wasn’t a refugee camp back then, it was a Khan encampment. The refugee camp was set up by the NCR to tend to war refugees after the massacre cleared the place out. We don’t know if the massacre was intentional and if it was we don’t know who intentionally fixed it. The game provides the theory that the NCR could have ordered it as retribution but the Khans you talk to who were there but are NCR imply the Khans intentionally sent them out to die

You also seem to think the Khans are innocent despite them historically trying to massacre Shady Sands, continuously harassing them after the Khan-Republic War, continuously provoking them by attacking their citizens indiscriminately and many of the Nevada Khans selling drugs to the evilest faction in the fucking game. Bitter Root even says the Khans are shit people his parents tried to sell him for Jet for fuck’s sake.

I didn’t say the NCR weren’t perfect. They are expansionist, they are paternalistic, they can be militaristic, they have the makings of a wealth divide, they have good men who get screwed over and sometimes bad people get their way in the NCR. For both good and bad the NCR have the makings of a nation, a real nation based on a system that can expunge whatever ills come its way.

House is no better than a feudal city state with a nice glowing paint job of a technocracy. It is like if Vegas was a ghost, acting like 200 years of history never happened. A man who has spent the last 200 years living in the past locked up like a rack of casino chips dreaming of something he will most likely never able to obtain. I can’t believe I am saying this but Ulysses was right, he is a pre-war relic that is better of resigned to the dustbin of history he narrowly avoided for so long.

The biggest take away from the NCR path is that democracy is messy, it isn’t all that easy, you might not even find people who want it, you might find people can be hard done by it and most importantly is that democracy is conditional. It is something that exists when it is used and sometimes using it can be costly. Democracy lasts because it is people who want to follow a path of most resistance because they feel the end of that path allows them a standard of living they can live in, because they are active participants. Democracy doesn’t belong to one person, it doesn’t necessarily belong to any group of special interest either, it is there waiting for you to use it. It is the most empowering thing in the world and all you have to do is be willing to work in defence of it.

Also it is pretty rich of you to call the NCR greedy and corrupt then simp for a billionaire technocrat.

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I simply said he’s the lesser evil, not that he’s the best option, there’s a difference.

You really take these things too seriously. It’s not like Landirt’s choice based on what we voted affect our real world in any shape or form :grin:

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You are right, this isn’t important and the second best option is winning right now so that is all that matters. Clearly your Disco Elysium politics have much more dire ramifications. Can we instead point out that Khakiasp voted for The Legion?

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He probably likes evil chars + melees playthroughs :stuck_out_tongue:

I got the “Literally The Sorriest Cop On Earth” so if any of my choices were bad, know that I will always be
sorry-tony-hayward

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Oh yeah I forgot people like to be evil in games. He might also like unfinish and underdeveloped sections of video games as well.

Reasons to Not Play Cl #4564: The melee in New Vegas sucks balls.

Clearly what I am trying to say is that New Vegas is for losers and that real people get a computer designed to find God and nothing else so as to download HoI4 and play the Old World Blues mod so you can play as a socialistic NCR instead.

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Could be worse, you could always be the World’s Most Laughable Centrist.

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I’m all central for Kim :eyeglasses:

and no, I don’t know how accurate this is so don’t hurt me :grin:

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Eww a political compass meme.

Also wrong as well and in a lot of ways the most galling being Kim as a complete centrist. While he is the best representative of a Moralist the game has, Kim still has some sympathies to socialists and communists that would push him to the left and he is merely neutral since he is a cop and likes to be professional which involves being impartial (so he acts in contrast to Harry who is radical in every version of politics he takes up). Evart Claire is a full blown communist, Cuno even states he has no politcal ideology aside from “Cunoism” (de facto rule by Cuno, Cuno is its sole adherent). Idiot Doom Spiral was a fucking ad executive and is central to the capitalist storyline. Rene should be way more to the right and Measurehead’s first words to you are literally YOUR BODY BETRAYS YOUR DEGENERACY and then spouts racialist nonsense to you. Gaston should be more to the centre since he is centre-left. Joyce Messier should be economic right, she is literally an executive at a company.

And I should be playing Disco Elysium again…

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Look bub i like the funny idiots in roman cosplay due to my liking to asterix and obelix, if were to be seriously asked to align myself with a faction in nv id probably choose ncr or yes-man (again funny)

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